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I am on about price point, next gen is alway faster then the gen before, the price of the 4890/70 is very cheap at moment and the cards coming in at that price points need to be faster then the 4***'s cards they are replacing at that price.

But then you have the 'extras' DX11, smaller, 40nm, quieter, memory error detection stuff, possibly better overclocking etc, it will get cheaper
 
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But then you have the 'extras' DX11, smaller, 40nm, quieter, memory error detection stuff, possibly better overclocking etc, it will get cheaper
My point is they could be slower at that price point, nvidia will still sell cards with dx10 now and until they got their dx11 cards out, their sales will not go down to zero until they have any dx11 cards until new year.
People are still getting 260/275/285/295 over ati's dx10.1/11cards and until there are a few games out that show a big difference some people will still buy dx10 cards if the price is right.
 
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My point is they could be slower at that price point, nvidia will still sell cards with dx10 now and until they got their dx11 cards out, their sales will not go down to zero until they have any dx11 cards until new year.
People are still getting 260/275/285/295 over ati's dx10.1/11cards and until there are a few games out that show a big difference some people will still buy dx10 cards if the price is right.

Firstly, Nvidia worldwide barely have any stock of the 285GTX, its all but dried up lately, 275's aren't much better, only the 260's have major stock around which frankly the 4890 is easily faster than, the 4890 outpaces the 285gtx in almost any dx10.1 capable game which, with dx11 games starting to come out already, and several dx10.1 games out, means it will largely be faster for some time.

But as said, the next gen midrange, has rarely beaten the high end previous gen, theres no need to. Nvidia, nor ATi have ever planned to significantly beat the previous high end with the new midrange, the only idea is to produce the same core smaller and noticeably cheaper, only hampered right now by low yields, as yields improve price comes down, the 4890/4870's are at max yields they'll get to, they won't get cheaper now(except when replaced to get rid of existing costs).
 
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Don't forget the 5 series will get faster with better drivers. It's early days yet.

Also it has being suggested in lots of recent price that ATI have scpoe to drop the prices of the highend 5870 and 5850 cards by $50 in a few months. Obviously these new Juniper cards would then have to drop down in price accordingly which would probably mean the 5750 dropping below £100.
 
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