Auto transmission oil & brake fluid service?

Lost for words.

Poor stockhausen, nasty Fox is 'picking' on him :confused:

Using your logic you are now picking on me, so I've reported your post as well. Stockhausen can - and has done by way of an entirely new thread - fight his own battles.

You wouldnt report somebody for 'picking' on me - so why 'report' me for 'picking' on stockhausen, who is all to happy to give more than he gets almost every time he posts on these forums.
 
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Jonny69 said:
No Fox, this is another of your attempts to pick on someone in this forum. You can try and come up with some clever way of disguising it but that's what you're doing. For this reason I reported your post and I'll continue to report your posts when I see you doing it.
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You can talk, I seem to remember you having to apologise (albeit very quietly) recently when you laid into fox without actually having read the thread. Almost like you are waiting to jump on things these days?

Never mind, I'm sure you'll start a thread with a lowered Iveco truck or something soon like you normally do after popping up in here to **** someone off.
 
Actually I would. I look down on everyone in this forum with equally condescending eyes. Don't think for one minute you're any different.

And @ Wicksta, I think you'll notice I'll never hold back on the apologies if I am wrong. As you've clearly noticed.
 
You absolutely wouldn't - you would quite rightly beleive that if you dish it out you should be prepared to take it. And we spent MONTHS having quite in-depth arguments with him last year over his strong and bizarre opinions on Scrappage and how people shouldnt own older cars. You can therefore imagine why I'd now be interested in why he seems to.... have an older car, something he looked so far down his nose at last year that it made me look like a balanced individual!
 
Jonny69 said:
Actually I would. I look down on everyone in this forum with equally condescending eyes. Don't think for one minute you're any different.

And @ Wicksta, I think you'll notice I'll never hold back on the apologies if I am wrong. As you've clearly noticed.
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You barely apologised in the thread I'm thinking about, it was like a silent shuffle away after you'd thrown all the toys out of the pram without reading anything lol. Like when The Sun print a front page headline then put an apology on page 14 four weeks later when they are proved wrong.
 
And remember you don't get to 100k posts without being willing to dredge up year old arguments to be rehashed ad unfinitum at the slimmest opportunity :p

Not that I'm complaining, as soon as I read the OP I knew Fox would chip in about the i20 - it had the sound of inevitability about it :p
 
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A gearbox fluid change was in the service manual for my Auto focus. Maybe there's a service manual that would advise if you need the auto fluid change in your car? Either way, probably worth doing.
 
You can do the ATF change yourself for half that (and a lot less if you just change what's in the reservoir and not all the fluid), I have no idea why you would question the value of a working braking system, that just buggers belief
 
OK, just spoken to the independent who has done my MOTs for tha past two years and in whom I have a fair degree of confidence. They say that:
  • over time the transmission and brake fluid will not be able to reach the correct temperature and will contain water and contaminants which will make them less effective
  • if I have not noticed any problem with changing gear or braking it is best to leave well alone
  • however, both tasks should be carried out every 4 to 5 years regardless
  • they would drain - flush - refill - test
  • each item would cost £65 to £75
I will now visit and speak to another local independent garage that I have never used before in order to get an alternative view.


Incidentally, in order to clarify and/or repeat - I have not been aware of ANY problems at all with either changing gear or braking and I have just had the car MOT'd without a single advisory when they said that the braking efficiency was absolutely fine and that there was plenty of meat on both the front disk pads and the rear shoes.

I would NEVER take risks with my brakes.
 
stockhausen said:
OK, just spoken to the independent who has done my MOTs for tha past two years and in whom I have a fair degree of confidence. They say that:
  • over time the transmission and brake fluid will not be able to reach the correct temperature and will contain water and contaminants which will make them less effective
  • if I have not noticed any problem with changing gear or braking it is best to leave well alone
  • however, both tasks should be carried out every 4 to 5 years regardless
  • they would drain - flush - refill - test
  • each item would cost £65 to £75
I will now visit and speak to another local independent garage that I have never used before in order to get an alternative view.


Incidentally, in order to clarify and/or repeat - I have not been aware of ANY problems at all with either changing gear or braking and I have just had the car MOT'd without a single advisory when they said that the braking efficiency was absolutely fine and that there was plenty of meat on both the front disk pads and the rear shoes.

I would NEVER take risks with my brakes.
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Your turning this into a right epic, stick it in that place you just been to, you dont need a second opinion honestly.
 
i think the garage were talking rubbish. pretty much every manufacturer i can think of state the brake fluid has to be done every two years.

if its not been done for 10 years then the damage is now probably terminal. the water corroded things etc
 
why is it so hard to believe manufacturer servicing schedules ?

My volvo and the vectra both had brake fluid changes scheduled for every 4th service (so every 4 years)

I've not got an auto but i suspect that will be in your service book as well. You follow its other recommendations about changing your oil at least yearly etc.. so why would you want to keep your Auto transmission and brake fluid and not change them like you would your oil ?

Your car won't definately blow up if you dont change its oil. I once didnt change the oil on my old VW polo for over 2 years when i was a student and it managed absolutely fine. But its a risk you take not changing them, just like any other car maintenance.
 
Local independent, recently opened service shop:
  • replace ATF, 0.6 hrs, 3.3L of Dexron III - approx £90
  • replace brake fluid, 1.1 hrs - Approx £110
  • didn't seem too familiar with the idea of flushing the ATF

Local Toyota main dealer:
  • drain & refill ATF - £89.30
  • drain & refill brake fluid - £59.04
  • would only flush ATF if the drained fluid was very dirty

Think I'll play safe and go to the Local Toyota main dealer - incidentally, not the one that did the earlier service and gave me an estimate of £120 for each item ;)

I find it interesting that I have been given estimates that range from £150 to £240 and heard such a variety of advice on the necessity or otherwise of flushing the ATF.


As to why the original dealer suggested that the services may not be essential and only advised that I should get them done this year rather than next, I suspect that it might be because they had actually checked the car and looked at the relevant fluids :confused:
 
whether or not maintenance is classed as "essential" comes down to your viewpoint.

Changing the oil is one of those things that comes up as a "must do" yet i didn't change the oil in my polo for over 2 years and it was fine. I change the oil on my current cars regularly because i don't want the risk. But you'll find plenty who will rarely if at all service their cars properly and swear its not needed.

As for the variations in cost, thats the same with any servicing tbh. Your paying for somebodys time. How much they charge you for their time is entirely up to them and some will charge vastly more than others.
 
10 year old brake fluid might come out okay on the MOT however after a long drive where everything gets nice and got, you will have vastly reduced braking efficiency.
 
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