Bad Teacher....really.

Tyron said:
I don't need kids to know that if I develop a problem I fix by getting help or change scene otherwise it gets worse.
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Don't get me wrong, you're spot on. I agree with you.

As you can probably tell from my post I realise I'm not cut out for teaching but I have possibly a more understanding standpoint when it comes to people whose patience is tested by children. Let's just say that now my patience is pushed to it's limits on a daily basis (by my own kids) I have a slightly less than utopian view on how kids should be coped with.

It's interesting to note that my dad was a teacher for 30+years. He has the same naturally aggressive personality as I do (lots of "red energy" as a behavioural psychologist once described me) but back in his day when teaching was a highly respected profession they were given more tools to cope with the little monsters. For example shouting, smacking, grabbing by the ear etc.

Now I don't want a debate about the rights and wrongs of that kind of control but I will say that just about all of my father's ex-pupils go out of their way to ask about my dad and pass on their regards and best wishes, including some of the trouble makers.
 
IrishChr1s said:
Reminds me of the standard in teacher i had years ago, primary 6. He was an English chap
Teaching in an irish school, I asked him nicely are you English sir? And his reply was yes I bloody well am
Would you like to see my bloody English passport as well? In a seriously angry tone.

I've wanted to meet him again for years to see if he was still teaching and most likely smack him for
Being so rude. I don't understand why people like this get into teaching in the first place.
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"Yes I bloody well am, and stay the **** away from my car you hear me?!?"
 
Ben Cole said:
Snip.
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We're on the same wave length, but times have changed and teachers know they can't do this, I'm not sure what happens at uni when they take the course but I would have thought they would have been taught some basic psychology on how to handle kids, do role play to prepare them for that environment and then the faculty provide assistance for teachers struggling?
 
Tyron said:
We're on the same wave length, but times have changed and teachers know they can't do this, I'm not sure what happens at uni when they take the course but I would have thought they would have been taught some basic psychology on how to handle kids, do role play to prepare them for that environment and then the faculty provide assistance for teachers struggling?
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You'd hope so wouldn't you but I under whether it's the case or not.

The thing that worries me the most about the original post is not the "shut up" but whether or not the teacher actually cares about the kids education and development. Hopefully the OP will investigate and get some positive results.
 
Indeed, I think more suprise spot checking should happen. I always hated the idea the school knew they were being watched and would go to extra length to perform well just for that day.
 
I never tell my Year 5's (9 and 10 year olds) to shut up. I have always and will always use the term "be quiet" - even if you say it in a very loud voice, it has the desired effect but without the same sense of aggression as "shut up" does.

It certainly wouldn't be the way I would speak to 5 and 6 year olds.

I'm not sure I would be talking to the head about this yet if it's only been once or twice when maybe she was tearing her hair out (you don't want to be one of "those parents" who is in to the head about everything), and remember she's a new teacher who is still getting used to everything and hasn't got all her strategies in place yet (I'm presuming that she's new to teaching, not just new to the school?)

If it continues or anything else happens, then I definitely would speak to the head. Believe me, it's not going to impact negatively on your child if you speak to the head about your concerns.
 
Amigafan said:
So tell me, do you have a teaching qualification that enables you to comment on good and bad methods of teaching?
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No, but she does, so shut your ****. :p

vicisthebest said:
I never tell my Year 5's (9 and 10 year olds) to shut up. I have always and will always use the term "be quiet" - even if you say it in a very loud voice, it has the desired effect but without the same sense of aggression as "shut up" does.

It certainly wouldn't be the way I would speak to 5 and 6 year olds.

I'm not sure I would be talking to the head about this yet if it's only been once or twice when maybe she was tearing her hair out (you don't want to be one of "those parents" who is in to the head about everything), and remember she's a new teacher who is still getting used to everything and hasn't got all her strategies in place yet (I'm presuming that she's new to teaching, not just new to the school?)

If it continues or anything else happens, then I definitely would speak to the head. Believe me, it's not going to impact negatively on your child if you speak to the head about your concerns.
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godinman said:
No, but she does, so shut your ****. :p
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I don't understand your post. Why have you "quoted" me but completely changed what I typed?


Edit: checking back through the thread it appears you've quoted me but the content of the quote is something "amigafan" posted. Dodgy copy and pasting.
 
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The teaching unions protect the bad teachers as the expense of the good teachers and the whole of society. I hope Michael Gove breaks them.
 
We weren't told to shut up at school, we had a board rubber thrown at our heads. I remember one teacher picking a mate up by his head and holding him up against the ceiling lol.
 
The Halk said:
The teaching unions protect the bad teachers as the expense of the good teachers and the whole of society. I hope Michael Gove breaks them.
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He hasn't got a hope in hell, he can barely wipe his own **** ;)

Maybe if he actually knew something about the profession he's actually in charge of then they might listen a bit more.
 
What exactly is wrong with telling kids in a classroom to "shut up". Surely they need to get used to authority and discipline at an early age?
 
I don't see a problem with telling the children to shut up, ok they may well turn around to people and tell them to shut up. If the teacher told them to "be quiet" or crossed her arms and put her finger on her lips to signal them to be quiet - would it equally be acceptable for the children to tell people to be quiet or cross there arms and put her finger on her lips to signal them to be quiet. I had chalk and board rubbers thrown around at us at school but i didn't in turn throw chalk or board rubbers at people to get them to stop talking.
Perhaps the teacher has told them to be quiet, keep the noise down and then to shut up as a last resort. What i'm saying is you never the get the whole story from 5 or 6yr olds.

The children have obviously got used to the teaching style of their regular teacher, the stand in is probably ok its just they are not used to her teaching style.
 
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I can't grasp the mindset of someone that complains about noisy kids being told to shut up :/
 
LordSplodge said:
What exactly is wrong with telling kids in a classroom to "shut up". Surely they need to get used to authority and discipline at an early age?
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Nothing - it's just parents being over sensitive to the way thier "little darlings" are treated.
 
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