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Best antivirus on the market?

Discussion in 'Windows & Other Software' started by Tim Crump, Apr 3, 2018.

  1. Columbo

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Mar 26, 2007

    Posts: 8,002

    Location: Nottinghamshire

    Any site the tables McAfee as the 2nd best option should be immediately ignored on the basis of being full of bovine poo. Oh and in their disclaimer, link below...

    https://www.top10bestantivirus.com/disclaimer
     
  2. 4K8KW10

    Mobster

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    Yes, I've noticed the same things. Then, just avoid TotalAV too.
     
  3. chrcoluk

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Feb 27, 2015

    Posts: 1,142

    Location: Leics, UK

    I think a/v is a bit of a false economy.

    Catching malware via signatures when it tries to execute is basically trying to catch it too late and is ineffective against 0 day.

    The anti malware market as a whole is over hyped, people buying software based on fear.

    There is very good free solutions available, especially if you run windows 10.

    But I would suggest looking at "anti exploit" software. such as HMPA
    Windows SRP or APPLOCKER
    Run chrome with isolated tabs enabled, and in applocker mode.
    Run ublock origin in the browser in advanced mode blocking 3rd party javascript by default, I would also block 1st party javascript by default on non mainstream TLDs.
    Cryptoprevent, free software that makes some good default SRP rules.
    If you run Windows 10 it now has EMET (anti exploit ) features built in but they disabled by default, highly worth researching on how to use. Wilders security has some good info on it.
    Binisoft has an excellent front end for the windows firewall which makes outbound app filtering easy, sadly the company got sold tho and new customers can no longer get the product. But there is a couple of alternatives. It was donate once for "unlimited" activation's. Brilliant value.
    There is also some exceleent free stuff from novirusthanks.

    http://www.novirusthanks.org/browse-by/malware-protection-tools/

    exe radar pro(similar to SRP)
    OSarmor
    smart object blocker
    syshardener

    I will try and post more later
     
  4. deshepherd

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 15, 2005

    Posts: 792

    People who remember it from before the 2009 rewrite and haven't/won't give it another look
     
  5. wolfie138

    Wise Guy

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    Posts: 1,636

    norton seemed to be one of the things like Netscape Navigator; it was absolutely fantastic for a number of years, and then suddenly just dropped off a cliff, becoming crap/a ballache to use/more expensive etc or any combination of all. i still have NOD32 running, keep thinking of changing it now and again, but every time i have a sesh reviewing AVSs it's the same thing - some sites rate an item "best ever" and others rate it mediocre or crap, so i never know what to trust and end up sticking w/ what i've got.
     
  6. V F

    Capodecina

    Joined: Aug 13, 2003

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    Location: UK

    I was one of them that hated Norton. I gave them up from 2004 until... 2015? Not sure. I spent ages researching and those of gamers. Norton certainly has changed big time. As I've seen very little difference between them and Nod32. At least with Norton it can be used on 5 devices.
     
  7. t31os

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    Location: Surrey - UK

    There is too much misinformation and bought for reviews today to trust any of those "top 10 antivirus" websites. If Norton or McCrappy are anywhere near the top of the list, you might aswell disregard the information off the bat. Smart PC usage is the best approach to staying clean today, the internet is infested with misdirection and product pushing to take advice given at face value. You couldn't pay me to use Norton, well maybe you could ... (what you offering?) ..
     
  8. chrcoluk

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Leics, UK

    The best paid software is stuff like rehips and appgaurd, the problem is the prices of these products are obscene and unrealistic for home users.

    I think classic a/v is obsolete hence my free recommendations.
     
  9. Pawnless Endgame

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    Interesting.

    Is that at the computer level or at the router level? I've been using the Google one (8.8.8.8 I think) but will try your suggestions.
     
  10. bimbleuk

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Gloucestershire

    Similar to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 for Google just put 9.9.9.9/149.112.112.112 (Quad9) or 1.1.1.1/1.0.0.1 (Cloudflare) in your router DHCP settings for the local LAN. Devices with a manual IP address will need the DNS addresses setting individually. That with a decent VPN service should be good enough for most people. There are also encrypted DNS services at the desktop level but that's probably a bit OTT for now.

    So 8.8.8.8 is your primary DNS and 8.8.4.4 for the Secondary DNS and similar for the two alternatives for Quad9 (pre-filtered) or Cloudflare (faster).
     
  11. L0new0lf

    Associate

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    This.
     
  12. billysielu

    Sgarrista

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    Plus:
    - Email Rule: If email has attachment then delete.
     
  13. nightmare99

    Mobster

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    The people that own that site also own the three un-recognised AV brands on there ;) - Those three all use the Avira engine and are geared to upsell you and hammer you on renewals.
     
  14. jsmoke

    Soldato

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    Unless it's a business server, I still hold that if Windows is fully updated and your not downloading dodgy files then 99.9% of the time you won't get any viruses. Genuine exploits are very rare nowadays and are patched very quickly by Ms.
     
  15. chrcoluk

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Leics, UK

    Occasionally I see people popup on a forum asking how to clean an infection.

    They sometimes get asked (by me or others) how they got infected, they go very quiet.

    That probably means they did something stupid, which backs up what I am saying just been vigilant.