best board for SB OC?

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hi guys, at first i was sure i wanted an asus becuase i have always used asus mobos. BUT, then i read a bunch of stuff saying that the EFI BIOS was very poor for overclocking.

So then i thought about getting Gigabyte, who i know make fantastic mobos, but i read that the UD4 has some problems overclocking SB and the UD3 seems too cheap to be good and the UD7 is out of my budget spec.

Then i thought about MSI or ASRock, but i have no experience with these companies and have no ides is they are any good.

Im looking for ATX size, im not looking for lots of pci slots, just one graphics card, with plenty of fan headers :)

ANWAY, what is the most stable and best board for an 2500k Oc'd to something like 4.4-4.8?

thanks
 
justintime2001 said:
I have the P8P67 Deluxe Rev.B3 and its run like a dream from the minute I switched it on.:)
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how long have you been using it? overclocked?

chippy08 said:
I would think of them in this order

GIGABYTE P67A-UD7
MSI P67-GD65
ASRock P67 Extreme 6
Asus Pro
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so no ASUS between the gigabyte and the MSI?

thunderflash said:
Me too

EDit: I just moved from ASUS (14 years I was an ASUS user) to MSI and much prefer MSI now.
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PLEASE can you you write a little more, i;d love to know how you got on and what you found the difference between gigabyte and MSI are :D
 
The reason for asus at the bottom of the list is because of all the asus problems, also i had the MSI P67-GD65 and it worked perfectly out of the box but it had to go only because of the sata problem as i needed to use all the sata ports.
Now just waiting for the z68 motherboards to arrive so i can use both the on cpu gpu and be able to overclock my 2600k.
 
panyan said:
PLEASE can you you write a little more, i;d love to know how you got on and what you found the difference between gigabyte and MSI are :D
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I chose MSI over ASUS purely because a friend of mine had a P67 Pro and had had nothing but problems and every BIOS flash brought with it new problems. To be fair though it was bought within the 1st week of release and may not be a fair comparison to newer bios versions or indeed the B3 variant.
(he sent his back to the store he bought it from last week to get a B3 version, got his new board 4 days later to find he sent his old one back to the shop with the i5 2500k still fitted :D )

I then chose MSI over Gigabyte because of the MSI having the Uefi and it was cheaper for the amount of SATA 6gb/ps ports I wanted. That and more people on the forums here were recommending MSI over Gigabyte, so I took the plunge and it has been perfect so far. Updated bios to 1.10b1 and a few other bios flashes before that and it has been very simple, wether using a usb pen and MSI Forum BIOS Tool or Liveupdate from MSI site. Also Live update is good for normal drivers etc required and gives you slightly updated ones to that available on the disc (on my b2 variant anyway).

I dare say people are slighly biased towards there own choice, but for me the move from ASUS has been good. I have never had a Gigabyte product so cannot really comment on them.
 
thunderflash said:
I chose MSI over ASUS purely because a friend of mine had a P67 Pro and had had nothing but problems and every BIOS flash brought with it new problems. To be fair though it was bought within the 1st week of release and may not be a fair comparison to newer bios versions or indeed the B3 variant.
(he sent his back to the store he bought it from last week to get a B3 version, got his new board 4 days later to find he sent his old one back to the shop with the i5 2500k still fitted :D )

I then chose MSI over Gigabyte because of the MSI having the Uefi and it was cheaper for the amount of SATA 6gb/ps ports I wanted. That and more people on the forums here were recommending MSI over Gigabyte, so I took the plunge and it has been perfect so far. Updated bios to 1.10b1 and a few other bios flashes before that and it has been very simple, wether using a usb pen and MSI Forum BIOS Tool or Liveupdate from MSI site. Also Live update is good for normal drivers etc required and gives you slightly updated ones to that available on the disc (on my b2 variant anyway).

I dare say people are slighly biased towards there own choice, but for me the move from ASUS has been good. I have never had a Gigabyte product so cannot really comment on them.
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this is very intersting, as i have read a lot of great things about this board, but then i read this:
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_p67a-gd65_motherboard_review/1

and it totally shook my confidence in this board

(i assume it is ok to post another websites review becuase they dont sell stuff and overclockers dont review :p )
 
panyan said:
this is very intersting, as i have read a lot of great things about this board, but then i read this:
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_p67a-gd65_motherboard_review/1

and it totally shook my confidence in this board

(i assume it is ok to post another websites review becuase they dont sell stuff and overclockers dont review :p )
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As much as one good review doesn't make a good product one bad one also isn't something to take too much notice of ;) I'd also take into account the large amount of Gigabyte advertising on the background of that review page, makes you wonder:p
 
The newer BIOS definitely made a huge difference to my overclocks and I think he probably had a pre-release or in the 1st week of release motherboard so not really an up to date review. I have no problems with mine and compared to other manufacturers forums there doesn't seem to be too much "help me" posts on the MSI forums.
 
Pretty much any of the msi/gigabyte/asus motherboard will deliver an overclock no problem at all. I have two rigs, one running an msi p67a-gd65 and the other running an Asus P8P67 Pro.

I have had no issues with either tbh and both overclock around the same on the same cpu.

Either of those will be great, it is worth noting that the asus motherboard has more usb headers.

I know people have been having issues with the P8P67 Pro, but I have had no issues with it and I have played with it lol.

Both boards run my i7-2600k at 4.9ghz 24/7 no problem. Overclocking on sandybridge is more biased on the cpu, provided you have a good cpu multiplier wise, you will be laughing with pretty much any board excluding obvious stuff like jet/biostar etc
 
Remember people usually only shout out when there is a problem and rarely shout about the good stuff.
Obviously complaints have a much higher profile and if ASUS out sell Gigabyte by quite a margin they will appear to have more complaints but % wise I doubt there is much difference.
So far my ASUS P8P67 B3 Deluxe (bios_1305) is performing very well, but I have not overclocked anything and its just running as out of the box, stable and quick.
If ASUS were as bad as some appear to say surely OC would not sell them as it refelects on their reputation too ;)
 
Liquid said:
I know people have been having issues with the P8P67 Pro, but I have had no issues with it and I have played with it lol.
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As much as there seems to be many people who have had various issues with the Asus mobo's there are plenty of people who haven't. You also need to factor in the people who have had no problems have probably not posted on here as they have no need.

It would be really nice to know, maybe from the OcUK sales of the Asus mobo's, how many of those who have had problems and those who have not.

Liquid, being nosey here what do you use your two rigs for?
 
justintime2001 said:
Remember people usually only shout out when there is a problem and rarely shout about the good stuff.
Obviously complaints have a much higher profile and if ASUS out sell Gigabyte by quite a margin they will appear to have more complaints but % wise I doubt there is much difference.
So far my ASUS P8P67 B3 Deluxe (bios_1305) is performing very well, but I have not overclocked anything and its just running as out of the box, stable and quick.
If ASUS were as bad as some appear to say surely OC would not sell them as it refelects on their reputation too ;)
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Sorry cant agree with both points you made there. I dont think the argument that asus out sells all other so they get an higher returns stands at all.
And this statement you make If ASUS were as bad as some appear to say surely OC would not sell them as it refelects on their reputation too.
so why was they still selling boards with a bad chip set.
 
Well i have had the asus pro since last thursday had no problem installing it,and its been running just fine ever since,a lot of ppl brought the asus board when sandybridge came out amnd yes there was some problems withthe new ufi,but they have sorted that out and they are running just fine for most ppl now,i read all the problems before i brought the pro,but still was my first choice and i don,t regret it at all,but gigabyte or msi are just as good its really down to what you like the look of,you not go wrong with any of the motherboards :)
 
chippy08 said:
Sorry cant agree with both points you made there. I dont think the argument that asus out sells all other so they get an higher returns stands at all.
And this statement you make If ASUS were as bad as some appear to say surely OC would not sell them as it refelects on their reputation too.
so why was they still selling boards with a bad chip set.
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Your more than welcome to disagree ;) I did say a similar % of returns; which would stand if they sell more boards. OC sold the B2 [as did most other suppliers] and once the issue was known about and a resolution sorted continued to sell the boards knowing it only affected 5% of boards and they would be swapped out eventually anyway. Most of us were aware of this before making an informed choice to by the B2 versions or not I think. OC couldn't be blamed for selling them before the issue was known about can they?
 
Mike306 said:
Liquid, being nosey here what do you use your two rigs for?
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One is for business/media server/other halfs machine and the other is my personal gaming machine. I admit the non gaming one is a bit overkill for work stuff/media server and the other half only uses it for email and facebook lol. I use enough slow systems when i'm repairing and I hate that lol.
 
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