Best mobo for a q6600 + a 8800gtx? - gaming performance wise

[w3bbo]

The p5k you linked to is the DDR3 version. There is also a DDR2 version.

The striker is having good results with quads apparently but it is 'old' tech now and the 680i is soon to be replaced with 780i. Best to stick with p35 imo unless you really need sli which imo, unless you are benchmarking, is silly as I have a 30" dell with a single 8800gtx with all settings maxed and suffer no fps problems. You could always wait until x38/x48 but hte 'features' they bring to the table are of little use for today.

 

[hardc0re_tid]

The p5k you linked to is the DDR3 version. There is also a DDR2 version.

The striker is having good results with quads apparently but it is 'old' tech now and the 680i is soon to be replaced with 780i. Best to stick with p35 imo unless you really need sli which imo, unless you are benchmarking, is silly as I have a 30" dell with a single 8800gtx with all settings maxed and suffer no fps problems. You could always wait until x38/x48 but hte 'features' they bring to the table are of little use for today.

do ocuk stock the p35 ddr2 version of the p5k, cant seem to see it

 

[easyrider]

I have tried a few ASUS mobo's and apart from the P5B they have all been flaky.

That said I haven't tried a P35 Asus mobo but the hassle of RMA and such puts me off.

P5W DH was just pap
680i FSB holes everywhere
Bad AXE just odd at high FSB.

The Two best mobo's I have tested with C2D are the DS3 and DQ6 gtting better clocks than any other 965 mobo's I have tried.

The 680i was just overpriced nonsense imo.

On the P35 Chipset the ABIT P35 is a great mobo in terms of clocking and stabilty with Quads.

Colour Scheme is just not worth it to worry about.

I dont care what my PC looks like when I'm Editing or Playing games.

I want Rock Solid stabilty and nice high clocks and the Gigabyte mobo's give just that and nice prices.

P5K standard avoid it limits Quad clocking.

If it was me know I would buy a Gigabyte P35/X38 or an ABIT reason being that my experince with ASUS and their overpriced mobo's leave a lot to be desired.Even if they do come with a nice black PCB!

Looks alone are not the correct reason for not buying hardware and this view is blinkered IMO.

Its a PC that computes DATA not an OIL painting lol.


My next mobo will be the Gigabyte X38 i think as every mobo from the Gigabyte camp that I have tested has been a league among the rest in terms of stabilty.

 

[w3bbo]

P5W DH was just pap

Yeah I agree

680i FSB holes everywhere

Got my E6600 to 4 gig stable - Excellent mobo imo. Shame it couldn't do the same for quad.

The Two best mobo's I have tested with C2D are the DS3 and DQ6 gtting better clocks than any other 965 mobo's I have tried.

You are in a minority then as the P5b deluxe is widely regarded as the king of the 965 chipsets.

The 680i was just overpriced nonsense imo.

Overpriced definately - so are Ferraris. Both are tempremental but in the right hands can be extremely fast.

On the P35 Chipset the ABIT P35 is a great mobo in terms of clocking and stabilty with Quads.

Agree

Colour Scheme is just not worth it to worry about. I dont care what my PC looks like when I'm Editing or Playing games. Looks alone are not the correct reason for not buying hardware and this view is blinkered IMO.

When two boards are evenly matched then I think its fair to compare looks. I personally like to look at my pc and so do many others, why else have a window? It wouldn't be so bad if gigabyte used plain coloured components but IMO the gigabyte boards look nothing short of ridiculous with the 'playschool' colour scheme they like to use/ The playschool theme is also carried over to the bios with voltage settings.

I want Rock Solid stabilty and nice high clocks and the Gigabyte mobo's give just that and nice prices. If it was me know I would buy a Gigabyte P35/X38 or an ABIT reason being that my experince with ASUS and their overpriced mobo's leave a lot to be desired.Even if they do come with a nice black PCB! Its a PC that computes DATA not an OIL painting lol.

The DQ6 is retailing circa £175 thereabouts - not what I would call a nice price lol. You pay more for top of the range products no matter who makes them. The Asus Maximus is circa £180 - I will gladly hand over £5 for a motherboard that dosn't look like it came out of LazyTown.

My next mobo will be the Gigabyte X38 i think as every mobo from the Gigabyte camp that I have tested has been a league among the rest in terms of stabilty.

Hang on...didn't you say

I want Rock Solid stabilty and nice high clocks and the Gigabyte mobo's give just that and nice prices.

£176...nice??

 

[Cupra]

i love my p35 dq6 however the x38 imo is a miss

 

[easyrider]

Yeah I agree


Got my E6600 to 4 gig stable - Excellent mobo imo. Shame it couldn't do the same for quad.:

Agree

You are in a minority then as the P5b deluxe is widely regarded as the king of the 965 chipsets.:

Well I tested the P5B under phase and although I ran out of FSB on a 6400 the DQ6 allowed to get 3.8ghz on a 2.13ghz 6400 I couldn't get it with the
P5B for some reason hence my statement.

Overpriced definately - so are Ferraris. Both are tempremental but in the right hands can be extremely fast.:

There are faster mobos for cheaper and with no intention of SLI the mobo sucks.IMO

When two boards are evenly matched then I think its fair to compare looks. I personally like to look at my pc and so do many others, why else have a window? It wouldn't be so bad if gigabyte used plain coloured components but IMO the gigabyte boards look nothing short of ridiculous with the 'playschool' colour scheme they like to use/ The playschool theme is also carried over to the bios with voltage settings.:

Asus have this feature in their BIOS for the new X38 Maximus Formula:

"CPU Level Up
A Simple click for instant upgrade
Ever wish that you could have a more expansive CPU? Upgrade your CPU at no additional cost with ROG´s CPU Level Up! Simply pick the processor you wanted to OC to, and the motherboard will do the rest!
See the new CPU speed and enjoy that performance instantly. Overclocking is never as easy as this!

Is that not a playschool feature? lol


Having an overly complicated BIOS doesn't always make a board good or suddenly for grown ups.

The Gigabyte Bios's are simple yes, but when a BIOS designed this well is allowing similar clocks if not higher, than mobo's with features in the bios that really do not do anything, then it becomes a moot point.

Overclocking is like cooking ..Basic ingredients are best.Keeping it simple can sometime yield better results.

The DQ6 is retailing circa £175 thereabouts - not what I would call a nice price lol. You pay more for top of the range products no matter who makes them. The Asus Maximus is circa £180 - I will gladly hand over £5 for a motherboard that dosn't look like it came out of LazyTown.:

I have seen it for £145 and TBH I'm past caring what components look like.
They are tools of the trade not works of ART.

I dont get precious about them I use them clock them then sell them on.

Hang on...didn't you say
£176...nice??

I have seen it for much cheaper than that.

 

[w3bbo]

Well I tested the P5B under phase and although I ran out of FSB on a 6400 the DQ6 allowed to get 3.8ghz on a 2.13ghz 6400 I couldn't get it with the
P5B for some reason hence my statement.

Like I said you are in a minority here.

There are faster mobos for cheaper and with no intention of SLI the mobo sucks.IMO

I didn't need SLI when I had this board, I bought it for its overclocking ability. I have yet to find a board that can match its memory overclocking features and at that time I found it more stable at high clockspeeds than both the P5bdlx and the DS3. It got my old E6600 prime stable at 4ghz where the other two could only PI at the same speed. I wouldn't say it sucks.

Asus have this feature in their BIOS for the new X38 Maximus Formula:

CPU Level Up
A Simple click for instant upgrade
Ever wish that you could have a more expansive CPU? Upgrade your CPU at no additional cost with ROG´s CPU Level Up! Simply pick the processor you wanted to OC to, and the motherboard will do the rest!
See the new CPU speed and enjoy that performance instantly. Overclocking is never as easy as this!

Is that not a playschool feature? lol

Every enthusiast board has an 'auto overclock' feature, Asus are no different. There will be people who buy the board expecting it to perform miracles(and they should for the amount they cost these days!) as its expensive. I was refferring to the bios options available and the way data is represented and changed in the said bios. I personally like to set a value not set a +0.2v or -0.1v of a value.

Having an overly complicated BIOS doesn't always make a board good or suddenly for grown ups. The Gigabyte Bios's are simple yes, but when a BIOS designed this well is allowing similar clocks if not higher, than mobo's with features in the bios that really do not do anything, then it becomes a moot point.

I agree but you also need to consider that when you want the absolute pinnacle of an overclock possible with the equipment you have at your disposal you don't want to be held back by a bios that restricts you because of the lack options available. Sure a 'basic' bios will get you a modest overclock as its simply a matter of fsb+Vcore and for most thats fine but when you reach the average overclock limits, the only way you can push it further is to experiment with a host of other options - if those options are unavailable then you will be left frustrated and re-considering your purchase. By that time its too late, unless of course you sell your motherboard on .

Overclocking is like cooking ..Basic ingredients are best.Keeping it simple can sometime yield better results.

I've yet to find a 'simple' overclock that couldn't be improved by a few tweaks, be it bios or otherwise. Basic overclocking requires basic ingredients and if you're happy with a 'beans on toast' overclock then great. I prefer a more substantial overclock and to get there you need a decent chef with a host of 'ingredients'.

I have seen it for £145 and TBH I'm past caring what components look like. They are tools of the trade not works of ART. I dont get precious about them I use them clock them then sell them on.

Personally I do care what my components look like as my PC is my hobby as well as my own personal 'work of art'. Building a PC is something personal and something to be proud of whether its a basic build or something more complex. When you stand back and admire your work I don't want to see all the colours of the rainbow spoiling the effect. Obviously this is of little concern if you don't have a case with a window but for those that do then gigabyte have a lot to learn regarding colour co-ordination with there technicoloured impression of a pavement pizza. I buy my components on the basis that they perform well and if I have the choice of looks then I also take that into consideration.

I must appologise to you Easy as you are clearly defending your own motherboard and a brand you swear by but I tell it like I see it. Gigabyte just don't cut the mustard for me for more than one reason. Someone asked for my opinion and I gave it, then backed it up with what I see as valid points. Everyone has a different point of view, if we didn't the world would be a boring place.

 

[w3bbo]

do ocuk stock the p35 ddr2 version of the p5k, cant seem to see it

Its out of stock atm. Give Gibbo a shout, maybe he can give you an idea of when/if they are are getting more in.

 

[hardc0re_tid]

oops, what have a started lol

right, other half wont let me spend more cash on the puter yet, closer to xmas i was told. so closer to xmas, whats the better board to go for, x38?

what about a 780i board, gives me the opportunity for sli at a later date.

 

[easyrider]

Like I said you are in a minority here.


I didn't need SLI when I had this board, I bought it for its overclocking ability. I have yet to find a board that can match its memory overclocking features and at that time I found it more stable at high clockspeeds than both the P5bdlx and the DS3. It got my old E6600 prime stable at 4ghz where the other two could only PI at the same speed. I wouldn't say it sucks. .

I guess we have just had different experiences with the same hardware.

Every enthusiast board has an 'auto overclock' feature, Asus are no different. There will be people who buy the board expecting it to perform miracles(and they should for the amount they cost these days!) as its expensive. I was refferring to the bios options available and the way data is represented and changed in the said bios. I personally like to set a value not set a +0.2v or -0.1v of a value. .

To be fair wether it says +0.2 or +0.1 is personal choice.They just do the same thing.

I have used many bios's and although more complex in there feature set have not allowed me higher clocks.

a lot of features in BIOS's these days dont do diddly squat and are there as frills around the edges of boring mediocre boards.

I agree but you also need to consider that when you want the absolute pinnacle of an overclock possible with the equipment you have at your disposal you don't want to be held back by a bios that restricts you because of the lack options available. Sure a 'basic' bios will get you a modest overclock as its simply a matter of fsb+Vcore and for most thats fine but when you reach the average overclock limits, the only way you can push it further is to experiment with a host of other options - if those options are unavailable then you will be left frustrated and re-considering your purchase. By that time its too late, unless of course you sell your motherboard on

Has I have said there is a lot of GUFF in Bios's these days that make no difference to the outcome of a clock.Most are not needed.

what most need is a vcore mod to achive the higher clocks not what is already in the bios.

I've yet to find a 'simple' overclock that couldn't be improved by a few tweaks, be it bios or otherwise. Basic overclocking requires basic ingredients and if you're happy with a 'beans on toast' overclock then great. I prefer a more substantial overclock and to get there you need a decent chef with a host of 'ingredients'.

I wouldn't call my 6400, a chip that runs at 2.13 ghz stable at 3.8ghz a beans on toast overclock.

Thats 1670 mhz overclock on a Gigabyte mobo.

I think that even you would agree that this is a nice clock and far from basic.

But it was all done with a gigabyte bios.

The P5B just couldn't get it stable at this speed.

Personally I do care what my components look like as my PC is my hobby as well as my own personal 'work of art'. Building a PC is something personal and something to be proud of whether its a basic build or something more complex. When you stand back and admire your work I don't want to see all the colours of the rainbow spoiling the effect. Obviously this is of little concern if you don't have a case with a window but for those that do then gigabyte have a lot to learn regarding colour co-ordination with there technicoloured impression of a pavement pizza. I buy my components on the basis that they perform well and if I have the choice of looks then I also take that into consideration..

Trinny and Suzanna springs to mind!

I must appologise to you Easy as you are clearly defending your own motherboard and a brand you swear by but I tell it like I see it. Gigabyte just don't cut the mustard for me for more than one reason. Someone asked for my opinion and I gave it, then backed it up with what I see as valid points. Everyone has a different point of view, if we didn't the world would be a boring place.

I only defend hardware that I use that shows real stabilty and performance regardless of the colour of the PCB's.

I'm close to buy a ASUS Maximus but the lack lustre experience with ASUS is putting me off.

But you are right I feel my points are also valid based on my experience. Everyone has a different point of view, if we didn't the world would be a boring place.

 

[w3bbo]

I guess we have just had different experiences with the same hardware.

Indeed....

To be fair wether it says +0.2 or +0.1 is personal choice.They just do the same thing.

I see it as a blunt tool tbh. Its much easier and precise to set the setting you actually want rather than using the gigabyte roundabout way of working.

I have used many bios's and although more complex in there feature set have not allowed me higher clocks.

Its not just about cpu overclocks though. Systemwide performance matters most imo. Some are more concerned with GPU performance or maybe memory performance. A bios needs to provide avenues that every enthusiast can explore regardless of experience to suit them best. What some may see as bloated and useless others may find usefull depending on there line of sight and requirements from a PC. I would prefer the option of trying a setting, even if it turns out to be of no use, than not having that option in the first place.

a lot of features in BIOS's these days dont do diddly squat and are there as frills around the edges of boring mediocre boards.

I agree that there are a lot of bios 'features' that just bloat them up. The blitz bios is a 2mb file! I don't use a lot of the features that add to this size but I'm sure there are some folk who do. There are lots of additions that give the enthusiast greater control over what settings they want to use. Some people want high memory overclock while others just want a small safe automatic increase in cpu speed. Some people are not interested in overclocking at all. The more settings a bios has the better imo as they cater for as many 'points of view' as possible.

what most need is a vcore mod to achive the higher clocks not what is already in the bios.

But it wouldn't be a mod if the manufacturer provided it then would it? I don't quite know what you are getting at here as most of the boards I have used have upto (and in the blitz's case) beyond 1.7v. Ample for a substantial overclock imo and more than enough if, as you do, prefer a 24/7 overclock.

I wouldn't call my 6400, a chip that runs at 2.13 ghz stable at 3.8ghz a beans on toast overclock.

Neither would I but had you had more bios options such as voltage regulation, PLL control, Vdrop dampners, more memory dividers and subtimings or NB strap settings etc etc etc you may have gotten it further, we will never know as it was on a gigabyte board/bios.

I think that even you would agree that this is a nice clock and far from basic.

By your own admission it is basic, using a basic board with a basic bios and basic settings. A good overclock nonetheless but as my old teacher used to say 'could do better'.

The P5B just couldn't get it stable at this speed.

Take a look at the bigger picture, yours or my experience counts for very little if countless others have had greater success using the same board that didn't work for you or I. Swings and roundabouts - just because one board dosn't work for you dosn't make it a bad board. My P5bdlx sucked. My A8n premium and A8n32 SLI aswell as my current Blitz were incredible boards. Does that mean the P5B dlx was bad - mine yes, on a whole no way. You can't possibly argue its wasn't highest performing 965 board, even by DS3 standards. Like cpu's, chipset performance also varies from core to core.

Trinny and Suzanna springs to mind!

Lol hardly. Would make a great tv show though.

I only defend hardware that I use that shows real stabilty and performance regardless of the colour of the PCB's.

Nothing wrong with protecting/defending ones investment and I never said that gigabyte were not stable nor good performers, I actually recommend them as good boards but I personally h8 the colour scheme and bios. You deride Asus and also EVGA yet both those boards you have used are two of the best boards (not just my opinion) available at that time with countless stories of fantastic overclocks by other well known and respected people. Maybe the problem lies closer to home?

I'm close to buy a ASUS Maximus but the lack lustre experience with ASUS is putting me off.

vs

Sort of says at all really

 

[james.miller]

i wouldnt bother with asus after my p5w dh fell apart and blew up on me


my ip35 pro seems like a very nice board though.

 

[w3bbo]

Agreed and already stated the P5WDH is a dire board

 

[w3bbo]

oops, what have a started lol

right, other half wont let me spend more cash on the puter yet, closer to xmas i was told. so closer to xmas, whats the better board to go for, x38?

what about a 780i board, gives me the opportunity for sli at a later date.

The 780i is reportedly the same as a 680i with a bridging chip allowing for PCIE 2.0. If you are planning on SLI then yeah go for it but I personally would go for a P35 with a single fast card rather than SLI. There are also rumours of an intel based 780i which will give you the best of both worlds.

 

[hardc0re_tid]

The 780i is reportedly the same as a 680i with a bridging chip allowing for PCIE 2.0. If you are planning on SLI then yeah go for it but I personally would go for a P35 with a single fast card rather than SLI. There are also rumours of an intel based 780i which will give you the best of both worlds.

ive a 8800 gtx o2 @ 626/1000 and a q66 @ 3.2 atm

im thinking of 'future proof' really, if i get an sli board now, ive got the 8800, if more demanding games come out, crysis for example, i can buy another 8800 gtx oc2, by that stage they would be a lot cheaper than replacing a whole board, new cpu and moving to ddr3. just an idea really.

are there any comparisons of the dq6 and the p5k?

 

[easyrider]

Indeed....



I see it as a blunt tool tbh. Its much easier and precise to set the setting you actually want rather than using the gigabyte roundabout way of working.

A good overclocker should be able to use both methods of voltage regualtion

Its not just about cpu overclocks though. Systemwide performance matters most imo. Some are more concerned with GPU performance or maybe memory performance. A bios needs to provide avenues that every enthusiast can explore regardless of experience to suit them best. What some may see as bloated and useless others may find usefull depending on there line of sight and requirements from a PC. I would prefer the option of trying a setting, even if it turns out to be of no use, than not having that option in the first place.

My point here is that the features in some bios are nothing more than gimmicks and bloatware nonsense in bios's should not be encouraged.

I agree that there are a lot of bios 'features' that just bloat them up. The blitz bios is a 2mb file! I don't use a lot of the features that add to this size but I'm sure there are some folk who do. There are lots of additions that give the enthusiast greater control over what settings they want to use. Some people want high memory overclock while others just want a small safe automatic increase in cpu speed. Some people are not interested in overclocking at all. The more settings a bios has the better imo as they cater for as many 'points of view' as possible.

There are boards that just do their talking when we clock them.

Thats what I like about GIGABTYE mobo's they are honest boards with a workhorse approach.None of your sales BS nonsense like ASUS.

If you wanted options in the bios then you should be running a DFI P35 mobo not a mainstream part like an ASUS mobo.

But it wouldn't be a mod if the manufacturer provided it then would it? I don't quite know what you are getting at here as most of the boards I have used have upto (and in the blitz's case) beyond 1.7v. Ample for a substantial overclock imo and more than enough if, as you do, prefer a 24/7 overclock.

The ability to decrease vdroop is the main mod.Even if you have a Vdroop dampner in the bios like ASUS.

Why not design the mobo with this Vdroop dampner already in place?

Rather than an option in the bios?

Neither would I but had you had more bios options such as voltage regulation, PLL control, Vdrop dampners, more memory dividers and subtimings or NB strap settings etc etc etc you may have gotten it further, we will never know as it was on a gigabyte board/bios.

As i Said I had options on the P5B it didn't cut the mustard on the 6400 like the DQ6 did.

By your own admission it is basic, using a basic board with a basic bios and basic settings. A good overclock nonetheless but as my old teacher used to say 'could do better'.

In reality 3.8ghz on a stock 2.13ghz is far harder to achive than a 4ghz on a 2.4ghz stock CPU.

In fact yours was a 1600 mhz overclock
Mine was a 1670 mhz overclock.

So In my book I was the one that did better.

Take a look at the bigger picture, yours or my experience counts for very little if countless others have had greater success using the same board that didn't work for you or I. Swings and roundabouts - just because one board dosn't work for you dosn't make it a bad board. My P5bdlx sucked. My A8n premium and A8n32 SLI aswell as my current Blitz were incredible boards. Does that mean the P5B dlx was bad - mine yes, on a whole no way. You can't possibly argue its wasn't highest performing 965 board, even by DS3 standards. Like cpu's, chipset performance also varies from core to core.

I have had enough C2D mobos to be able to make judgements based on the bigger picture.

Lol hardly. Would make a great tv show though.

What do you mean?

The show would be called " What not to clock"

Nothing wrong with protecting/defending ones investment and I never said that gigabyte were not stable nor good performers, I actually recommend them as good boards but I personally h8 the colour scheme and bios. You deride Asus and also EVGA yet both those boards you have used are two of the best boards (not just my opinion) available at that time with countless stories of fantastic overclocks by other well known and respected people. Maybe the problem lies closer to home?

Hardware is not an investment.Hardware is throw away.Its out of date the next month.

If I had acheived better clocks on ASUS and EVGA hardware then I would recommend them above all else.

The fact is I didn't so I won't.


W3bbo have you ever tested benched clocked a GIGABYTE mobo?

vs

Sort of says at all really

Don't get it.

Are you saying that Russle Crow can beat up Geoffrey Hayes?

 

[w3bbo]

A good overclocker should be able to use both methods of voltage regualtion

Good or bad has nothing to do with it.

My point here is that the features in some bios are nothing more than gimmicks and bloatware nonsense in bios's should not be encouraged.

Did you even read what I posted last?

There are boards that just do their talking when we clock them.

Theres more to a mobo than overclocking features, although I will admit those are the features I look for.

Thats what I like about GIGABTYE mobo's they are honest boards with a workhorse approach.None of your sales BS nonsense like ASUS.

And gigabyte don't use this tactic? You are plainly getting biased now. Gimme a break lol

If you wanted options in the bios then you should be running a DFI P35 mobo not a mainstream part like an ASUS mobo.

lol - the blitz is mainstream? You really do know your stuff don't you

The ability to decrease vdroop is the main mod.Even if you have a Vdroop dampner in the bios like ASUS.
Why not design the mobo with this Vdroop dampner already in place? Rather than an option in the bios?

Because that would be against intel spec and Asus could be sued. If you enable it yourself there is no lawsuit for asus. At least Asus give you the option.

As i Said I had options on the P5B it didn't cut the mustard on the 6400 like the DQ6 did.

For you, not for many others. I'm pretty sure you are in the minority here so best leave that one alone.

In reality 3.8ghz on a stock 2.13ghz is far harder to achive than a 4ghz on a 2.4ghz stock CPU.

In fact yours was a 1600 mhz overclock
Mine was a 1670 mhz overclock.

So In my book I was the one that did better.

What that has got to do with motherboards I have no idea. Fact is I got a 4ghz chip stable, you got yours to 3.8. I know which cpu I prefered 3.8 vs 4gig with extra cache hmm let me think. Its a known fact that low end cpu's get a higher percentage overclock so everytime you spout on about 'percentage overclock' you make yourself look rather foolish. I'm not for comparing E-peens but while we're at it.
We both had e6600's - I got 4 gig you got 3.8
We both have Q6600's - I have 4gig(again) you have 3.6

...so best not to go there Easy.

Hardware is not an investment.Hardware is throw away.Its out of date the next month.

Not for people who cannot afford to upgrade every month. Its an investment to them. I can also upgrade when I like because I'm lucky to be well paid but not everyone has that luxury. When people ask for advice you would do well to consider this.

W3bbo have you ever tested benched clocked a GIGABYTE mobo?

I had a couple of them myself but not intel. One was good, cant rememebr the name off hand now something like k8nF9 ultra, the other, K8NXP was a dire motherboard which died after a couple of weeks use. Had one on skt a too but I'll be damned if I can remeber what that was called.

I wouldn't say I 'bench tested' any of them. Unless you have LN2 then there is little point. I build PC's not ghetto rigs. If you are asking if I have had experience of the latest gigabytes then yeah a 965 DS3 with an E6300 for a friend. Couldn't get above 3gig with it. Switched to my rev1 AR EVGA and its happily sat now at a modest 3.2ghz with air cooling being the limitation for him. I will say I am in the minority here and refuse to have a go at the performance of gigabyte because they are good - many have shown good results with them. Just becuase I have not does not make them poor performing boards and I will still recommend them to people as on average they appear to be good mobo's. Unlike you I show no bias from the odd bad mobo I have owned.

What are you getting at?
Don't get it.
Are you saying that Russle Crow can beat up Geoffrey Hayes?

Maximus vs DQ6, can't believe I had to explain that one lol. Sorry was having another dig at gigabytes colour scheme and trying to lighten the atmosphere in this thread .


...Anyway I'm outta here as what started as friendly advice has once again been turned into an Epeen self gratifying, bickering contest. Hope you get your motherboard Hardcore, if you need anymore help contact me on msn or email m8.

 

[easyrider]

Good or bad has nothing to do with it..

Then why mention it?

Did you even read what I posted last?.

Yes

Theres more to a mobo than overclocking features, although I will admit those are the features I look for..

The majority of enthusiasts go for the overclocking feature first.

And gigabyte don't use this tactic? You are plainly getting biased now. Gimme a break lol.

No you are dissing gigabyte C2D mobo's having had no experience with them.

lol - the blitz is mainstream? You really do know your stuff don't you .

This is where like always you start insulting due to having nothing to say.

Because that would be against intel spec and Asus could be sued. If you enable it yourself there is no lawsuit for asus. At least Asus give you the option..

Link?

For you, not for many others. I'm pretty sure you are in the minority here so best leave that one alone..

I can only go on what I experienced.You should take heed of this.

Oh I forgot you have no experience with Gigabytes mobo's but seem keen to offer judgement on them.

What that has got to do with motherboards I have no idea. Fact is I got a 4ghz chip stable, you got yours to 3.8. I know which cpu I prefered 3.8 vs 4gig with extra cache hmm let me think. Its a known fact that low end cpu's get a higher percentage overclock so everytime you spout on about 'percentage overclock' you make yourself look rather foolish. I'm not for comparing E-peens but while we're at it.
We both had e6600's - I got 4 gig you got 3.8
We both have Q6600's - I have 4gig(again) you have 3.6

...so best not to go there Easy..

You goiing to beat me up?

Fact is I got more mhz...Do the math

Not for people who cannot afford to upgrade every month. Its an investment to them. I can also upgrade when I like because I'm lucky to be well paid but not everyone has that luxury. When people ask for advice you would do well to consider this..

I do that why I recommend hardware based on using the the stuff.

Not simply saying "i don't like the colour" lol

I had a couple of them myself but not intel. One was good, cant rememebr the name off hand now something like k8nF9 ultra, the other, K8NXP was a dire motherboard which died after a couple of weeks use. Had one on skt a too but I'll be damned if I can remeber what that was called..

So no experience with C2D gigabytes mobos?

I wouldn't say I 'bench tested' any of them. Unless you have LN2 then there is little point. I build PC's not ghetto rigs. If you are asking if I have had experience of the latest gigabytes then yeah a 965 DS3 with an E6300 for a friend. Couldn't get above 3gig with it. Switched to my rev1 AR EVGA and its happily sat now at a modest 3.2ghz with air cooling being the limitation for him. I will say I am in the minority here and refuse to have a go at the performance of gigabyte because they are good - many have shown good results with them. Just becuase I have not does not make them poor performing boards and I will still recommend them to people as on average they appear to be good mobo's. Unlike you I show no bias from the odd bad mobo I have owned..

I'm getting the maximus now by ASUS and will clock it.Just for you


Maximus vs DQ6, can't believe I had to explain that one lol. Sorry was having another dig at gigabytes colour scheme and trying to lighten the atmosphere in this thread .

Oh right I get it now.The maximus went straight over my head.

...Anyway I'm outta here as what started as friendly advice has once again been turned into an Epeen self gratifying, bickering contest. Hope you get your motherboard Hardcore, if you need anymore help contact me on msn or email m8.

Will do as I said in a previous thread I think we should make up

 

[BlastRadius]

Lol @ Webbo and Easyrider.

Get a room

I disagree with both of you on every point you mentioned - joke

 

[easyrider]

Lol @ Webbo and Easyrider.

Get a room

I disagree with both of you on every point you mentioned - joke

We both enjoy are little debates.

He loves me really