Poll: Best Striker in the PL?

Best striker in the PL?

  • RVP

    Votes: 70 46.7%

  • Bent

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Jelavic

    Votes: 5 3.3%

  • Suarez

    Votes: 6 4.0%

  • Aguero

    Votes: 17 11.3%

  • Tevez

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Rooney

    Votes: 34 22.7%

  • P.Cisse

    Votes: 8 5.3%

  • Adebayor

    Votes: 2 1.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 6 4.0%
  • Total voters
    150
Like HangTime said Drogba no longer plays in the PL therefore he cant be considered for a vote for the best striker in the PL, same reason why had I done this 12 months ago I wouldn't of included VDS or Scholes in the polls because both had retired and thus neither were any longer PL players

It's typical of this forum that rather than debate about the actual question instead the topic of conversation is to discuss who isn't there for selection regardless of the fact that they wouldn't of voted for them anyway

pingwing said:
Demba ba should be on ther for last season...

Don't see why Tevez is in and not Dzeko too
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I'm afraid the board has limitations of 10 options and Ba who didn't register a goal after his return from the ACN got bumped by Cisse. As for Tevez last season aside he's been a consistent goal scorer in the PL for around 5 years now and deserved inclusion (he did score quite a few goals at the tail end of the season when he stopped sulking as well)
 
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Tom84 said:
Like HangTime said Drogba no longer plays in the PL therefore he cant be considered for a vote for the best striker in the PL, same reason why had I dont this 12 months ago I wouldn't of included VDS or Scholes in the polls because both had retired and thus neither were any longer PL players

It's typical of this forum that rather than debate about the actual question instead the topic of conversation is to discuss who isn't there for selection regardless of the fact that they wouldn't of voted for them anyway
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It's 'typical' of this forum that people are unable to have any sort of discussion without getting a stick stuck up their behind and taking things personally when it's merely an interesting point to discuss.

The thread would only have gone, 'RVP MATE, ROONEY SUCKS LOLZ, NAH AGUERO, WHAT ABOUT CISSE WITH HIS BEST STRIKE RATE?!?!' between different people anyway so it's largely irrelevant and there most likely wouldn't have been 'good' discussion.
 
Bucket said:
So it's not based on just last season, nor right now, it's based off of however long each individual poster decides pretty much.
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Which is what I just said :confused:.

Pretty sure I've seen it said more than once that votes do not have to be based purely on last season. Which means we're not judging form, we're judging who is the best in each position, the clue is in the title :p.

If you saw something over the course of a single season to make you think someone is the best in their position, that's fine (Aguero has only had one season but has done enough in that time to at least be in the discussion). It's also fine if you've had a few seasons to form this opinion (Ashley Cole might not have been head and shoulders above the rest last term, but he's done enough over the years to convince many that he is still to this date the best LB in the league).

It doesn't matter how you got there, the end result is the same.

It's a ridiculously simple question being made difficult, who do you think is the best GK in the league, the best CB, RB, LB, etc etc. Not 2 years ago, not 5 years ago, now, at the time of voting, which player would you have in your team in each position? Honestly, talk about complicating things for no reason at all :p.

Bucket said:
So each different person is voting based off of 'not just based on last season', but that could be based off of the last two seasons for them but the past four for the next guy. It's just a muddle.
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That's how opinions work, it's not just the conclusions that differ between each individual, how we come to those conclusions can also vary wildly from person to person. One person has seen enough in 6 months to think he knows the best player in the league, the next believed that 4 years ago and hasn't seen anything since to change his mind. From one extreme to another and everywhere inbetween, that's just how opinions work. The only common ground we can ever have on this is the time we actually make the vote.

And I take nothing to heart good man, you raised a point, I disagreed, I'd rather explain why than simply saying I think you're talking **** :p.
 
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I typed out a long post, but to be honest I can't be bothered to have pages and pages of going round in circles because it's just dull frankly, I hate reading it between other posters so I'm not going to bother myself, it isn't worth the bother and unfortunately interesting discussion usually cannot take place without it turning into a bum fight of people taking things to heart.
 
Rooney, world class all around game but RVP is limited? lol, its like people don't have a clue who RVP , or Rooney for that matter was. RVP joined Arsenal as a winger/withdrawn striker and was compared squarely to Bergkamp, never once Henry(and wouldn't have been till the last 18 months, of 8 years at Arsenal). Yes for over 6 years people compared him to the guy whose game was vision, passing, technique, ability and not really shooting. But because RVP has scored a lot in the past 18 months and largely been asked to play a distinct role.... that never happened?

At Rooney's best he's brute force at its best. Quick feet "messi-ing" his way through players, never, great passer, hell no, epic technique, nope, stunning finisher, nope, power, yup. Rooney's all around game is average, he's world class in NO single aspect of the game of football. RVP is a better finisher, passer, crosser, freekick taker, has better vision and hell if he can't miss the ball with a power kick and spin himself into the air then crash into the floor better than any other striker in history. ;)

Rooney, lol. Papa Cisse will be VERY interesting to watch in the next year, he had a goals to shots ratio that puts RVP and Rooney to shame, the power with little backlift is amazing, the precision has been amazing, his quick thinking/reactions and getting shots off when most players would take a touch, or three before shooting is out of this world. If he keeps it up well, 6 months in he's been ruddy magic.

Ba has also been brilliant, he's not been scoring as much as he's in large part moved from furthest upfront to left wing and creating the chances, his interplay has been brilliant and he's been insanely unlucky not to score another 10 goals since the ACN, his football hasn't been in any way worse than the first half of the season.
 
Bucket said:
And if this thread was made three days ago, he would have been.

It's a bit silly and doesn't really make sense.

It's based off of previous season(s) form, he played last season, therefore it counts, surely?

If RVP had transferred 3 days ago and wasn't included in this poll people would be going crazy and it would be silly. A game hasn't been played of the new season so it makes sense to include players that were in it last season.
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But again, he's not in the PL anymore, therefore cannot be the best striker IN the PL...
 
My take on it is that there isn't as clear cut as a choice between two:

1) Based on last season
2) Based over a period of a few years

There is also:
3) Based on who is deemed to be "the best" right now going into the new season, which will depend a bit on interpretation i.e. some people might be heavily influenced by what a player did last season, expecting them to continue it, whereas others might be from the "form is temporary, class is permanent" school of thinking. And that's fine, it doesn't matter that people choose slightly differently, the point is that they all choose whoever they think is the best.

To me it is this 3rd option that is being aimed for here, i.e. it isn't a "PLAYER OF THE SEASON" contest, nor is it a "GREATEST STRIKER OVER PAST 5 YEARS", but rather "IF YOU WERE BUILDING A TEAM TODAY WHO WOULD BE YOUR #1 PICK" and that allows people to choose in the way they feel most comfortable with.
 
If it was to build a team today probably Aguero as he will continue to get better and better. Teves is the better player (at the moment) but he has a screw loose so is a bit of a liability.
 
wedgie said:
Strikers is a tricky one, because we have 3 very realistic candidates (Rooney/RVP/Aguero). Nobody stands clear above the rest, so I think we'll get Utd fans voting for Rooney, Arsenal fans voting for RVP, and the City fan voting for Aguero :p. Only in this case I don't think it's what you would call typical club voting, I just don't think there's enough extra coming from the other teams players for people to go against their own guy. So Rooney for me then obviously since I can only vote for one, but there's nothing to choose between at least 3 of the players listed.
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Agreed, and with that in mind, it's Rooney for me.

drunkenmaster said:
*something about Rooney being poor*
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You hate Rooney and think he's not fit for a pub team, we get it. ;)

Shouldn't Bendtner be in there? He's better than everyone else in the poll after all.
 
I went for RvP, but it was close between him and Rooney - If that was to be done next season however, I'm pretty sure I'd have had to go for Aguero - I just don't think after only one season here he can be said to be better than the others.
 
crackerman said:
If it was to build a team today probably Aguero as he will continue to get better and better. Teves is the better player (at the moment) but he has a screw loose so is a bit of a liability.
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Probably a bad choice of words on my part. Assume the team will only be together for one season or perhaps even a few games i.e. the age of players shouldn't matter.
 
Went for Aguero. The ability he showed in his first season was unbelievable so can't imagine what he will be like next when he has a proper pre season and is used to the league.
 
Tis a difficult one but I'm gonna vote for Van Persie.

If West Ham were to sign one of those players (dreaming!) I'd probably choose Ageuro though. :)
 
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