Depends where you watch your videos. There was definitely flag burning (well attempted, the flags wouldn't burn), tommy chants and people were carrying around a model gallows and an effigy of May.
Betrayal of 17m march
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Out of curiosity, if the referendum outcome had been Remain, would you now equally be demanding a second referendum on account of lies and spending issues by the Remain proponents?
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Have you got a list of these? Not random remarks, but a concerted campaign of lies we had similar to how leave brainwashed the gullible?
Realistically, if we leave the EU what options are there other than putting up a border between NI and Ireland again? A border between NI and the rest of the UK is basically conceding that they're part of Ireland (and by extension the EU)?
The next step after that will undoubtedly be a NI referendum? In light of the potential of the IRA kicking off again, leaving the EU and the shambles the UK government has descended into I think there's a reasonable chance NI might see siding with Ireland/EU as the better option.
It just strikes me that leaving the EU is basically conceding that Northern Ireland will no longer be part of the UK?
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What were the spending issues with remain? Or are you going to claim that the governments official position that "Brexit is bad, here's a leaflet explaining why" is some sort of massively unfair spending.
This is the correct attitude to have, to really understand would require far more than I can supply but what I can tell you is this spilled over in to every day life for many in the UK.
The threat of Irish terrorism was every bit as real and frightening as anything from Islamic terrorists since 9/11.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...e_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process
have a read through that list and look at the size and scale of some of those bombings.
and note this line "There were at least 10,000 bomb attacks during the conflict (1969–1998)."[
Nobody knows they haven't been subject to the same scrutiny because Leave aren't peddling the Russia interference rubbish to excuse losing but you've got to admit it's a bit rich remainers complaining about Arron Banks allegedly breaking the rules by a few grand when the government spent £7m+ lobbying for the remain side with leaflets to every home.
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No but the likes of Farage and Rees-Moog would. If Breixt had been the utopia they along with Boris and Gove promised, seamless and an amazing deal for us because the EU need us more than we need them then we wouldn't be in this mess. They lied to the public though, its a mess, its a terrible deal, and there isn't a better deal, it's this or WTO which would be a disaster. We were promised all these amazing free trade deals but the EU will have a free trade deal with the US in the next few years that will be an equal free trade deal, we if we leave will get a terrible deal from the US, hormone packed meat and non labelled GMO are non negotiable for US and we are too small to stand ups to them unlike the EU who won't take any of those.
What really annoys/ed me, that "Britain can be Great again". We were and are Great Britain because we live on the largest of the islands that make up Britain, the "Great" island. It has nothing to do with our imperial past and who the hell would want to go back to being an imperial nation anyway raping and pillaging our way around the globe. Sadly that image appealed to plenty of people in the referendum buildup. We are and will continue to be stronger within the EU. Is it perfect? No but you can't change something you aren't part of. And to be honest I trust the consensus of 27 nations more than I trust our politicians in Westminster.
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What are a bunch of 50 -70 yr olds going to do? xD
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As it never should, have been, regardless of whether or not we leave the EU.
The whole argument about whether we should have a second referendum hinges on one simple fact.
If you voted remain you knew exactly what you were voting for whereas, as has been proven by the chaos in trying to define how we Leave, people voting for Leave had no idea what they were voting for.
I doubt there are many Remain voters who have changed their mind since, there are plenty of Leave voters who, now they've realised it's not quite as simple as was made out, and we're not actually that powerful that the EU will roll over for us, will have changed their mind.
If you voted remain you knew exactly what you were voting for whereas, as has been proven by the chaos in trying to define how we Leave, people voting for Leave had no idea what they were voting for.
I doubt there are many Remain voters who have changed their mind since, there are plenty of Leave voters who, now they've realised it's not quite as simple as was made out, and we're not actually that powerful that the EU will roll over for us, will have changed their mind.
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There'll be no riots. According to every news outlet every single person between that age of 16 and 35 want to remain, those would be the people most liable to "riot"
The people with financial clout vs generation rent, who could do the most damage there?
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Staying in your fox-hole?
Watching the approaching headlights?
The Government of Cameron and his bunch of lazy, arrogant, patronising, out of touch Tory chums were largely responsible for the result of the 1st Referendum. They simply couldn't be bothered to put together a convincing argument for remaining in the EU because they believed thatpeople would do what they were told.
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Betrayal of 17m march. Is the betrayal May's deal or the outright lies that vote leave sold?
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I suspect they overestimated the intelligence of the general public.
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Both sides lied, although one could be classed as ambitious guess work and the other fear mongering.
What is the case now though is that anyone who voted remain is hell bent on staying in the EU even though a democratic vote was held and they lost.
What I find even more frustrating though is how there seems to be no positives at all to leaving the EU under WTO rules. Which I find even harder to believe than the blatant lies from the government and bank of England that it would spell doom and gloom.
Or, they gave the populace more credit than they were due with regard to critical thinking.
It also reminds me of the analogy about voting for class president. What chance does a kid have who puts forward realistic policies versus a kid who makes ridiculous promises about coke fountains in the corridors, chips and pizza for lunch every day and a 1 hour school day?
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I like how this rule wasn't even prompted. They just decided and announced it to throw more spanners at the MPs. This is the sort of action which makes me question whether we should stay in the EU. If they're greasing the wheels for us to stay with exactly the same benefits/costs as our current membership, then it's clearly a good deal for them. Is it such a great deal for us or are we just here to help out Germany and France?
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