BFG 8800 GTX/GTS arriving at OcUK soon and some images for you all!!

[Darkwave]

The card is fantastic, no doubt! It's just too expensive when you have the 7950GX2 for only £350 or so.

But it dosen't support DX10 which will be a factor early next year whether people want it to be or not.

I'll explain to you why I said that then. If I was in the market to spend that much money on a graphics card, I would basically have two options now: -

1.) 7950GX2 @ ~£350
2.) 8800GTX @ ~£450-£500

Since I don't already own a 7950GX2, never mind an eVGA one, using a step-up like easyrider is out of the question. So tell me why I would pay £100+ for DirectX 10 support when: -

1.) Only a few games will even support it for a year or two.
2.) I have no intention of buying Vista until more games support DX10.

See? Simple and logical. I would buy a 7950GX2 over an 8800GTX right now easily, no questions asked, if I didn't usually set my budget at around £200 anyways.

 

[jrodga2k5]

Il wait until the next revision, and a direct x 10 game of course

 

[Darkwave]

Il wait until the next revision, and a direct x 10 game of course

Bingo!

 

[Bigpig]

Il wait until the next revision, and a direct x 10 game of course

smart move just what i will do Let the people pay to beta test it

 

[UKTopGun]

Yeh I thought £150 was a lot on a graphics card to spend until I came to these forums!

I blame people such as easyrider for having such an uber setup and making me jeleaous

 

[pastymuncher]

Cards are always expensive when they are released. Yes it is a shed load of money and there's no way i could justify spending that on a single card but i have a December 2003 copy of Computer Shopper here with an advert by a large UK online retailer proudly selling a 9800XT for £440.

 

[easyrider]

I blame people such as easyrider for having such an uber setup and making me jeleaous

 

[Durzel]

I'll explain to you why I said that then. If I was in the market to spend that much money on a graphics card, I would basically have two options now: -

1.) 7950GX2 @ ~£350
2.) 8800GTX @ ~£450-£500

Since I don't already own a 7950GX2, never mind an eVGA one, using a step-up like easyrider is out of the question. So tell me why I would pay £100+ for DirectX 10 support when: -

1.) Only a few games will even support it for a year or two.
2.) I have no intention of buying Vista until more games support DX10.

See? Simple and logical. I would buy a 7950GX2 over an 8800GTX right now easily, no questions asked, if I didn't usually set my budget at around £200 anyways.

Not to mention that the 7950GX2 will naturally go down in value (both retail and 2nd hand) when the 8800GTX is officially released.

 

[Darkwave]

Not to mention that the 7950GX2 will naturally go down in value (both retail and 2nd hand) when the 8800GTX is officially released.

That too, unless you're easyrider and eVGA practically buy it back off you for the price you got it for.

 

[Uriel]

Meh. By the time DX10 comes around there will be cheaper cards that perform just as well as this. Unless you have an EVGA and your step up won't last that long I don't see the point - unless you have a huge LCD and need two of these beasties to power it...

 

[Burumbar]

I'll explain to you why I said that then. If I was in the market to spend that much money on a graphics card, I would basically have two options now: -

1.) 7950GX2 @ ~£350
2.) 8800GTX @ ~£450-£500

Since I don't already own a 7950GX2, never mind an eVGA one, using a step-up like easyrider is out of the question. So tell me why I would pay £100+ for DirectX 10 support when: -

1.) Only a few games will even support it for a year or two.
2.) I have no intention of buying Vista until more games support DX10.

See? Simple and logical. I would buy a 7950GX2 over an 8800GTX right now easily, no questions asked, if I didn't usually set my budget at around £200 anyways.

Thats fair enough but you would then still buy another card in a year or so when DX10 was in full flow.

I'm not disagreeing with you by the way. I think the prices are nuts.

i'm in the market for a new card though to go with my new Conroe. I run a Dell 2405. My thoughts have been.

1. GX2. Less than a 8800 yes but not as future proof and with the odd quirk here and there.

2. Crossire. More than a 8800 and not as future proof.

3. 8800gtx. Middle to top on price and possibly best on performance in a single card with option to SLI a second when the prices are more reasonable.

I think taking everything into consideration the GX2 is not such an obvious choice as it stands. Especially when the only ones available are the more expensive Evga ones. I would just like to know how long the shortage will be after release day but obviously thats not something we are generally told as it will effect initial high priced sales.

 

[Flanno]

Hi there

Yes the 680 nforce mainboards launch on the same day too.

Thanks. What brands, and any idea of pricing ? It's going to be tight enough cash wise if the G80's are 500 a piece.

Also, what time on the 8th are they going up on the site ?

Thanks

 

[Burumbar]

I believe things are changing. As only EVGA are launching the NF 680 board in the UK and BFG in the US.

Thanks. What brands, and any idea of pricing ? It's going to be tight enough cash wise if the G80's are 500 a piece.

Also, what time on the 8th are they going up on the site ?

Thanks

Got to be heading towards the £200 mark I'd reckon.

 

[Darkwave]

Thats fair enough but you would then still buy another card in a year or so when DX10 was in full flow.

Why would I? I'm not drawn in by the DX10 hype. We've seen 64-bit processor hype, dual-core processor hype, SM3 hype, and look at where those technologies are today. This is no different.

1. GX2. Less than a 8800 yes but not as future proof and with the odd quirk here and there.

Benchmarks so far have shown that the GX2 performs more or less the same as the 8800GTX, so I don't see how you think the 8800GTX is more future proof. If you think that DX10 makes a card future proof now then you might want to do a search on the terms "Shader Model 3 and futureproof."

3. 8800gtx. Middle to top on price and possibly best on performance in a single card with option to SLI a second when the prices are more reasonable.

"Middle to top on price"? I'm not sure what that means, but the 8800GTX is very expensive, Gibbo has said it himself and he is going to be selling them.

As for SLI, you can SLI 7950GX2s.

I think taking everything into consideration the GX2 is not such an obvious choice as it stands. Especially when the only ones available are the more expensive Evga ones. I would just like to know how long the shortage will be after release day but obviously thats not something we are generally told as it will effect initial high priced sales.

Aye, unless you're absolutely obsessed with DX10 (see: all the people who were obsessed with SM3 now kicking themselves in the face even today) the 8800GTX won't be good value for money for a while yet with the 7950GX2 on the market for £350 (and less when the 8800GTX comes out probably.)

 

[Flanno]

That's what I though - £200 plus another grand for 2xG80's. Nope...over my budget by a long way I think. Just the 1 G80 for me then. Also, I am thinking now, it's a bit risky investing in an unproven chipset. And I understand the way SLI is done it new as well and supposedly broken at present. Trying to justify not buying 2 G80's to myself

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Thanks. What brands, and any idea of pricing ? It's going to be tight enough cash wise if the G80's are 500 a piece.

Also, what time on the 8th are they going up on the site ?

Thanks

Well Gibbos already said the GTX is going to be £150 more than the 7950 GX2, thats £387 for the BFG one, so your talking £540 for the BFG 8800 GTX.

 

[Gibbo]

Well Gibbos already said the GTX is going to be £150 more than the 7950 GX2, thats £387, so your talking £540.

Hi there

Thats you assuming I was referring to the more expensive GX2 though. We do have cheaper GX2's as well. 8800 GTX will be close to £500 with VAT but not over it.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Yeah as you said your getting BFG ones in, BFG 7950 GX2 is £387, oh well its still gona be £500.

 

[Macro]

I'll explain to you why I said that then. If I was in the market to spend that much money on a graphics card, I would basically have two options now: -

1.) 7950GX2 @ ~£350
2.) 8800GTX @ ~£450-£500

Since I don't already own a 7950GX2, never mind an eVGA one, using a step-up like easyrider is out of the question. So tell me why I would pay £100+ for DirectX 10 support when: -

1.) Only a few games will even support it for a year or two.
2.) I have no intention of buying Vista until more games support DX10.

See? Simple and logical. I would buy a 7950GX2 over an 8800GTX right now easily, no questions asked, if I didn't usually set my budget at around £200 anyways.

Why on earth would you spend that amount of money on a dead end technology now (granted if you've had one for a while now then fair enough)?

A 8800GTX would cost you ~£100 / £150 more now than the GX2 so you save that much.

In a year/18 months time when you upgrade again (or if you have the GX2 finaly make the change to Vista and DX10 because now there are lots of games out that support it) a GX2 DX9 only card will sell second hand for lets say £100ish. Compared to the GX2 at that point the 8800GTX will still have more speed, Dx10 and SLi options (a good second hand market for 8800GTX owners wanting to pick up a second 8800GTX for Sli) so would by comparisson sell for say £200 / £250ish (see where this is going yet?).

So over a year you almost certainly get the same value give or take from the 8800GTX , plus DX10 support, plus the option to go G80 SLi if need be. Ok, so they're only guesses and not exact figures but I don't think they're far out give or take.

Buying a GX2 now would just be false economy if you stop and look at the big picture.

 

[Duff-Man]

Hi there

Thats you assuming I was referring to the more expensive GX2 though. We do have cheaper GX2's as well. 8800 GTX will be close to £500 with VAT but not over it.

Thank you, Gibbo.

I'm after one of these cards, but I won't be in the country on the day of launch (meeting in Lisbon all week ). Now I know how much money to pass to my brother so that he can order one for me