'Big Man' tackles fare dodging teenager on train

.Lethal · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:24

PermaBanned said:
Any sources other than a daily mail article?

I think you're being a little pedantic now.

It's like me saying that it wasn't really Tefal that made that reply.

DID YOU SEE HIM TYPE IT? He could have gone for a dump and left the PC unlocked.

In fact he could be on a train right now with no money trying to scam a free ride to find his long lost brother he didn't know existed until someone in another thread said HAI IM TEFALS BRO.

Tefal · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:24

PermaBanned said:
Well why are most grown men on a train on their own? They're probably on a regular commute. If a (younger) teenager is on their own on a train then it's far more of an unusual situation, probably with abnormal circumstances surrounding it.

****ing hell you're going to have a shock when you go to uni.

LeJosh · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:24

Malc said:
I may be wrong about the human rights but if you man handle someone without their permission then surely that's against their rights.

In an ordinary situation that hadn't called for the removal of a person, of course.

But in context, no, the man hadn't paid, was swearing at the conductor. And the conductor would have said don't touch him if he felt the "big man" was in the wrong or if the conductor didn't need help.

None of them said otherwise, end of story.

Biohazard · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:25

PermaBanned said:
Well why are most grown men on a train on their own? They're probably on a regular commute. If a (younger) teenager is on their own on a train then it's far more of an unusual situation, probably with abnormal circumstances surrounding it.

It's not really.

PermaBanned said:
And yes, i realize there are extremes that apply to the 'big man' too, but it's less likely.

Yet you insinuated them.

Actually, appearances aside, he didn't just go up and tank the lad. He asked the Scotrail guard if he wanted him off the train. Once he had his permission - if it was his to give or not - he proceeded to remove him from the train.

PermaBanned · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:29

Also, funny how a while back when there was a story about an old woman who had the wrong ticket and no money everybody in the carriage clubbed together to get her one. Now, when it's just a youth "oh, well he's probably just some brat with no manners, better chuck him off so i can get on with my incredibly important life."

LeJosh · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:30

He was a brat with no manners though, well observed.

Tefal · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:31

PermaBanned said:
Also, funny how a while back when there was a story about an old woman who had the wrong ticket and no money everybody in the carriage clubbed together to get her one. Now, when it's just a youth "oh, well he's probably just some brat with no manners, better chuck him off so i can get on with my incredibly important life."

was she swearing at the conductor?

Also seriously when you go to uni you'll quickly (very quickly) learn what students are like on trains.

PermaBanned · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:32

Biohazard said:
Actually, appearances aside, he didn't just go up and tank the lad. He asked the Scotrail guard if he wanted him off the train. Once he had his permission - if it was his to give or not - he proceeded to remove him from the train.

There's a bit of a jump from being asking if he wants him off and pulling him from his seat. I was certainly caught off guard by it, i expected him to actually talk to the kid. If the conductor's being aggressive and confrontational then i thought it was common knowledge that he's far more likely to respond to a 'friendly/understanding' emotional appeal.

Narj · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:32

PermaBanned said:
Now, when it's just a youth "oh, well he's probably just some brat with no manners, better chuck him off so i can get on with my incredibly important life."

Did you actually watch the video? Because I'm pretty sure that assumption would be correct. :confused:

I honestly wonder what planet you're living on sometimes.... :rolleyes:

Any reasonable person would have acted in an entirely different manner if they'd bought the wrong ticket or whatever.

wannabedamned · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:33

PermaBanned said:
Also, funny how a while back when there was a story about an old woman who had the wrong ticket and no money everybody in the carriage clubbed together to get her one. Now, when it's just a youth "oh, well he's probably just some brat with no manners, better chuck him off so i can get on with my incredibly important life."

I dont think the old woman acted as this guy did though. Why would anyone waste their money on someone that had such a bad attitude

Biohazard · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:33

PermaBanned said:
Also, funny how a while back when there was a story about an old woman who had the wrong ticket and no money everybody in the carriage clubbed together to get her one. Now, when it's just a youth "oh, well he's probably just some brat with no manners, better chuck him off so i can get on with my incredibly important life."

Maybe if he asked for the money from passangers if he was really was genuinely stuck, politely, that could well have happened.

Abusing an old man is unlikely to endear people to such acts of charity however.

LeJosh · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:35

lol

I've seen guys like that all my days, they don't respond to anything and are incredibly short with people. Especially when the conductor said "the passengers will start to moan" and the kid's retort was "tell them to stop moaning then."

He clearly didn't give a ****. So off he went.

Also he tried to barge back in without paying for the correct ticket, another tick on the "what not to do on a train" scenario.

Tefal · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:36

Biohazard said:
Maybe if he asked for the money from passangers if he was really was genuinely stuck, politely, that could well have happened.
.

why would he need to ask, according to his father he had money on him.

Draeger · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:36

PermaBanned said:
we just don't know

Are your Googles broken?.

Googlefu fail.

Biohazard · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:40

LeJosh said:
So off he went.

Pretty much.

LeJosh said:
Also he tried to barge back in without paying for the correct ticket, another tick on the "what not to do on a train" scenario.

Probably not.

TriedandTested · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:42

Superb. Big Man is THE MAN. Nice.

Ahleckz · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:49

PermaBanned said:
Well why are most grown men on a train on their own? They're probably on a regular commute. If a (younger) teenager is on their own on a train then it's far more of an unusual situation, probably with abnormal circumstances surrounding it.

And yes, i realize there are extremes that apply to the 'big man' too, but it's less likely.

What? A teenager being on a train is on there own is unusual and it is likely that abnormal circumstances led to that? Where on Earth did you pull that one out of?!

PermaBanned · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:49

PianoBasher said:
I honestly wonder what planet you're living on sometimes....

Oh, this really alien one where we give people the benefit of the doubt, and for some strange reason have a desire to see the best in people :rolleyes:

LeJosh · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:52

PermaBanned said:
Oh, this really alien one where we give people the benefit of the doubt, and for some strange reason have a desire to see the best in people

...

Malc · 13 Dec 2011 at 22:52

.Lethal said:
Indeed.

Whilst he may think it's wrong now, if he was in trouble with a group of kids who wanted to steal his wallet/phone etc; I'm sure he would be grateful if someone intervened.

You're right, the big guy should demand compensation for doing somebody else's job.

I definitely think that a mugger is the same as someone refusing to pay for a train ticket. It's exactly the same level of crime!

If I saw someone getting mugged obviously I'd try to help out the victim by intervening. This is not the same. It's not a violent situation.