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Blackwell gpus

5090 - $2000
5080 - $1200
5070 Ti - $800
5070 - $600
5060 Ti - $450
5060 - $350
Given the supposed prices, for me the 5080 at 16gb is a DOA card! i am not paying 1200 for 16gb and somthing half the spec of a 5090! What the heck is Nvidia thinking. they might be able to fool the general consumer but for most of the people on this forum they can see right through it. its a shame as i need a new card with a new system but i am sorely temped to buy a 2nd hand 40 series and wait.
 
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looking at the recent string of pc releases, gta 6 will run 1080p@30 fps on a 5090 - thats if you are lucky
Dont believe so, R* make console games first and PC games second, They know there market it also enables them to make buttery smooth performance on console and a produce a heavily optimized product for the hardware. The PC version of GTA 5 wasn't released until 2 years after the console release and as a Game dev myself I know PC has to many configurations to test for. with consoles you have two (mostly), you know all the specs and can thoroughly test before release.
 
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man the 5090 is going to be a tremendous product, if those rumored specs are true
on paper its only 20-30% faster
in reality it probably will be 20% or less.


NO games really need one, game engines haven't really moved since the 4090 released, and I doubt they will evolve much in the next 3 years either.

waste of money for anyone looking to upgrade from a 4090 100%, unless these new models don't have coil whine.

Might as well rebrand the 4090 right now to 5085, unless theres some "locked features" they purposely stop last gen from being able to do.
 
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I want to do path tracing at 120fps or more, and I don't mind reaching that with frame gen and DLSS on quality. The problem with the 4090 is that as fast as it is, it needs to be a hell of a lot faster in RT because Alan Wake 2 struggles to maintain 60fps at 4K maxed out with DLSS quality and frame gen.

The 4090 is a very fast card, but not fast enough.
 
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I want to do path tracing at 120fps or more, and I don't mind reaching that with frame gen and DLSS on quality. The problem with the 4090 is that as fast as it is, it needs to be a hell of a lot faster in RT because Alan Wake 2 struggles to maintain 60fps at 4K maxed out with DLSS quality and frame gen.

The 4090 is a very fast card, but not fast enough.
As much as I like to take a dig at nvidia I feel this example wouldn't be such a time. The 4090 is a monster GPU and if even that is not enough in a current gen title to run a game at a sort of mainstream resolution with acceptable framerate then perhaps the game itself might be the problem. Could be another Crysis and overuse of certain functions/features? just wondering.
 
30% delta over 4090 is no laughing matter though..
also the thing about 100+ billion transistors, god knows how they will be harnessed but looks like a monster GPU
...and the gddr7 thing

--- rough calculations suggest an estimated transistor count of 122 billion (+22% die size, +25% density) based on the new rumor
 
Given the supposed prices for me the 5080 for 16gb is a DOA card! iam not paying 1200 for 16gb and somthing half the spec of a 5090! What the heck is Nvidia thinking. they might be able to fool the general consumer but for most of the people on this forum they can see right through it. its a shame as i need a new card with a new system but i am sorely temped to buy a 2nd hand 40 series and wait.
Well the 4090 climbed to $2000 quite easily so if we say that a 5080 is around that performance level then $1200 for a 4090 with 16 GB wouldn't be too outrageous. Plus ofc whatever new features they'll lock to the 5000 series. Imo the 5090 will be perpetually out of stock due to ML and even if it will launch at $2000 it can go to $3000+ with ease, which means further demand on the next best thing i.e. 5080, so price won't go low (<$1000) but I hope I'm wrong.

on paper its only 20-30% faster
Bandwidth alone is monstrous and currently what's holding even the 4090 back, 70% more b/w (+extra cores) will put this easily in the 50% faster range.
 
30% delta over 4090 is no laughing matter though..

Not sure anyone is laughing.. especially not at the price! It could be 30% more money for 30% faster. You see where this is going?

The only way a 50 series makes a little sense is if more locked in features mean a 40 series card can't use them. People who are still on Ampere of older will see the best gains.
 
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Not sure anyone is laughing.. especially not at the price! It could be 30% more money for 30% faster. You see where this is going?
if you have a 4090 you can sell it for what? IDK the going rate I'm guessing 1200-1500? then add an extra £1000 of your hard earned wages and now have roughly an extra 30fps.

1k for 30fps who wouldnt? it's like spending 100% more than you need to for 30% gain
I know what I'd do, save the 1000, and you owna bout half a 6090 that probably releases around the same time GTA6 will release on the PC anyway.
Probably the first game that would warrant a 5090, yet the card will probably be outdated by then.



Let's say I own a barbershop, can I buy a 5090 for the business, not make a profit at the barbershop and totally right the cost of the GPU off against my taxes something? is that how the world works.
if yes, I need to start a business
 
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if you have a 4090 you can sell it for what? IDK the going rate I'm guessing 1200-1500? then add an extra £1000 of your hard earned wages and now have roughly an extra 30fps.

1k for 30fps who wouldnt? it's like spending 100% more than you need to for 30% gain
I know what I'd do, save the 1000, and you owna bout half a 6090 that probably releases around the same time GTA6 will release on the PC anyway.
Probably the first game that would warrant a 5090, yet the card will probably be outdated by then.



Let's say I own a barbershop, can I buy a 5090 for the business, not make a profit at the barbershop and totally right the cost of the GPU off against my taxes something? is that how the world works.
if yes, I need to start a business

its just a hobby imo.. but also depends on game completion rate , if you look at it objectively -100 games finished in 2 years is approx 5000 (at list price), so the price of the upgrade works out to 20% of that amount
 
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I can't think of 5 games that need a 4090, never mind a 100
I bet 90 of those games would be totally playable with high fps on last gen nvidia cards, 3XXX series.

Buying a top of the range GPU really is a waste.
Trust me bro I had a 4090 since launch day.

I don't really regret it but I know 100% I never really needed it, I upgraded from a 980ti though so was a massive leap for me at the time and kinda justifiable since I skipped so many gens of card anyway
 
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The best upgrade for a 4090 is probably a faster cpu. There must be loads that bought that GPU and still rock an older CPU. As FG and upscaling are still on the table (no lockouts like ampere) the 4090 is plenty fast. Unless Jensen in January says the 40 series cannot use X or Y as you need to be on the special sauce Blackwell only...
 
The best upgrade for a 4090 is probably a faster cpu. There must be loads that bought that GPU and still rock an older CPU. As FG and upscaling are still on the table (no lockouts like ampere) the 4090 is plenty fast. Unless Jensen in January says the 40 series cannot use X or Y as you need to be on the special sauce Blackwell only...
yea I have a 12700k and as considering upgrading, but look at benchmarks even compared to a 9800x3d at 4k, and in non gaming stuff I think the 12700k slapped it.


Only real upgrade for most people thats not a waste of money will be a nice oled, massive image quality increase across the board, better colours, proper blacks.

more worth it than 30fps
 
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Given the supposed prices for me the 5080 for 16gb is a DOA card! iam not paying 1200 for 16gb and somthing half the spec of a 5090! What the heck is Nvidia thinking. they might be able to fool the general consumer but for most of the people on this forum they can see right through it. its a shame as i need a new card with a new system but i am sorely temped to buy a 2nd hand 40 series and wait.

That great to hear as it should keep the secondhand value of are 24GB 4090 GPU's high even after the 16GB 5080 get released :)
 
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