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Thought so, cheers.
Blu-ray discs wave goodbye to HD analogue compatibility
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Thought so, cheers.
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You can't get 1080p over Scart as far as I'm aware, but many HD products (Sky+HD Boxes, Blu-Ray Players) come with Legacy connections like Scart.
You don't need HDMI for 1080p either, it is just the industry accepted standard for HD products.
It depends whether your DVI connections also do HDCP, if they don't this measure will also reduce the resolution over DVI, basically this cripples any output that isn't considered "secure".
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A fair few people here seem to be confusing Composite for Component, this isn't about scart, it's about the RGB component out.
As others have said, this is just an arbitrary restriction, it does not protect against piracy nor is there any need to lock out those with older AV systems.
Shocking.
As others have said, this is just an arbitrary restriction, it does not protect against piracy nor is there any need to lock out those with older AV systems.
Shocking.
You're right, sort of:
analog SD 576i / NON-HD capable: Composite (Yellow, Red, White), SCART & S-Video
analog HD 1080p capable: VGA & Component (Green, Blue & red)
Digital HD 1080p capable: DVI, Displayport & HDMI
The reason why they're restricting analog connections is to stop people capturing the stream and pirating. The digital connections above (DVI, Displayport & HDMI) can all be encrypted using HDCP, thus "preventing piracy." What's stupid though is the encryption used (HDCP) is VERY easily bypassed and we've been able to rip DVD & Blu-Rays directly from the disk. Who actually captures an analog output to copy their DVDs and Blu-Rays?
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I thought it was easy enough to 'rip' them anyway, I just think it's daft. If someone said we're fitting a limiter so you can only drive your car at 10mph during the day as you might break the law, i'd be a bit grumpy! 
And no it doesn't affect me in the least, everything I use is HDMI apart from the Wii that's component.
Isn't it easier to just remove the ports from new devices?
And no it doesn't affect me in the least, everything I use is HDMI apart from the Wii that's component.
Isn't it easier to just remove the ports from new devices?
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If you're playing the Blu-Ray through official software (WinDVD, PowerDVD etc) then yes, VGA will be limited to as it's an unsecure analog connection.
I really don't understand why they would do this because VGA is capable of HD
resolutions and is standard on most TV sets for pc connection
I personally find HDMI/DVI isn't as clear for text on pc than VGA is.
Soldato
That would be too much like common sense.
Soldato
Strange that they've just announced this. I thought this image constraint 'feature' if you can call it that, was in both blu-ray hardware & software & it had been there from the word go.
Soldato
Yes that is a very good point, forgot that they all don't have HDCP. However it is becoming more and more common.
That's their (Hollywood movie studios) problem. You can potentially capture the full 1080p video sent over VGA as the connection is analog, thus cannot be encrypted. By forcing the resolution sent over VGA to 540p you cannot capture the full 1080p video. It's an artificial limit. Future Blu-Ray players will only send 1080p over HDMI as the connection is encrypted via HDCP.
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Absolutely ridiculous idea. I know they had the option to do it, but was hoping they wouldn't.
If I want to use component to my projector because I'm using the HDMI input for something else, why shouldn't I be allowed to do this in the highest quality possible for the connection on every disc I buy?
BluRay discs are already far too easy to rip/copy using easily available software; who the hell is going to bother buying a component capture card to copy a movie when they can just get a bit-perfect copy with a couple of clicks?
/rant
If I want to use component to my projector because I'm using the HDMI input for something else, why shouldn't I be allowed to do this in the highest quality possible for the connection on every disc I buy?
BluRay discs are already far too easy to rip/copy using easily available software; who the hell is going to bother buying a component capture card to copy a movie when they can just get a bit-perfect copy with a couple of clicks?
/rant
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They are there for a reason! 
Sky+HD boxes are now standard and not everyone has a TV with a HDMI socket.
Sky+HD boxes are now standard and not everyone has a TV with a HDMI socket.
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Once again, scart is composite, component are the three jacks marked R,G,B.
Incidentally Sky phased out component and kept scart a while back simply by modifying production of new boxes rather than disabling it in the set top box OS.
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lol, fair point.
Darn technocracy, gets me in the ear every time.
Darn technocracy, gets me in the ear every time.
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This would only be relevant if Blu-rays copy protection had not been broken.
Now that you can get perfect digital copies including ripping out this ICT token, this is pointless.
Now that you can get perfect digital copies including ripping out this ICT token, this is pointless.
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bit late complaining about it now, this has been on the cards from day one - it was always the intention to limit analogue outputs at some stage. i think we all know its a complete waste of time, but the time to complain was 5 years ago, not now.
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