No it's not.....or rather it can be, or it can be S-Video or it can be RGB.
Doh...someone beat me to it
Blu-ray discs wave goodbye to HD analogue compatibility
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No it's not.....or rather it can be, or it can be S-Video or it can be RGB.
Doh...someone beat me to it
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I was rather hoping this day would never come.
I have a PS3 outputing over component at 720p routed through my yamaha Z9 AV amp on to a 720p DLP projector. I am really happy with this system.
I suppose if they do cripple component out then I should be able to get away with sending the ps3 either direct to the projector via HDMI (projector has HDCP compliant DVI socket) or I could get a cheapish HDMI switch box which will allow me to connect my other devices which currently also use component and are switched by the AV amp.
I really see little reason for doing this other than a cynical suspicion that it is an attempt to obsolete a lot of existing equipment.
I have a PS3 outputing over component at 720p routed through my yamaha Z9 AV amp on to a 720p DLP projector. I am really happy with this system.
I suppose if they do cripple component out then I should be able to get away with sending the ps3 either direct to the projector via HDMI (projector has HDCP compliant DVI socket) or I could get a cheapish HDMI switch box which will allow me to connect my other devices which currently also use component and are switched by the AV amp.
I really see little reason for doing this other than a cynical suspicion that it is an attempt to obsolete a lot of existing equipment.
How is this a good thing :S
I have an excellent setup before anyone asks. The reason it's not a good thing is because it's totally artificial, all it does is detect if you're using analogue and send you a worse signal. How does that help anyone?
I have an excellent setup before anyone asks. The reason it's not a good thing is because it's totally artificial, all it does is detect if you're using analogue and send you a worse signal. How does that help anyone?
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Not much point introducing this now, is there? HDCP was completely and utterly broken quite a long time ago.
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Who honestly still uses component for their HD video? If someone is so bothered about sticking with their component connections for whatever reasons they will probably be going out now and buying a current player without limitations.
This will make no difference!
EDIT: I see someone is still using an older av amp. Hdmi switching is a viable option to solve the problem.
This will make no difference!
EDIT: I see someone is still using an older av amp. Hdmi switching is a viable option to solve the problem.
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Soldato
Can you get HDMI switch boxes which accept component?
There are plenty of people who stick with older AV amps such as the Arcam 350 as they are way more musical than the newer amps. Good stereo audio is more important than HD audio to some, but you don't miss out on PQ.
Soldato
Probably a request by the retailers.
Eg// Dixons may have a PS3 at a fairly good price, but only if you buy a gold plated £25 HMDI cable.
Soldato
Why would you want a hdmi switch box which accepted component? I think the unfortunate issue affecting people who mist stick with their older av amps is going to be bypassing the amp for video entirely and using a coax or optical connection for sound (as is probably the case already) and using a hdmi switcher direct to the tv. More remotes or getting up off the sofa required unfortunately.
If musicality is so important, I think most will have their front channels supplied by a separate power or integrated amp anyway. Having a large multichannel audio system requires quite a bit of flexibility.
The problem isn't with the player, it's with the discs.
Current players will also limit to 540p if the flag is set on the disc you're playing.
The only thing it will do is make people change (not really upgrade) their setup if they have to go out and buy a new AV amp or HDMI switch (less convenient).
All of this so people can't copy HD sources...when HDCP and BD+/AACS are wide open already for bit-perfect copies.
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I was asking a question about the switch boxes in response the post i quoted.
In my opinion this is just forcing people to buy new kit. If musicality is important, why should people buy two amps when older AV amps available at half the price of good HD amps will do what they want?
Soldato
Valid points! The second hand is awash with cheaper musical amps because they have older tech... It's difficult to relate that market to any other second hand markets. It is hard to argue against this, but HDMI switching is a massive advantage of newer amps and such is worth the extra cash to a lot of people. The option of buying a pre/power setup of any real quality is out of the reach of most, but the cost of integrating an HDMI switch into a system as well as buying a second hand older amp might make the cost mount unfavourably anyway.
I hadn't realised that this related to a flag on the disc. Even so I still don't think it will affect that many. I appreciate there is nothing wrong with a 6-7 year old amp without HDMI, especially some of the higher end ones! However like my previous point, HDMI switching has become a very important and desireable feature to have on an amp and as such, a lot of knowledgeable users are taking this on board. We're not talking amongst people who simply walk into a high street shop and buy anything the salesman says is good.
I hadn't realised that this related to a flag on the disc. Even so I still don't think it will affect that many. I appreciate there is nothing wrong with a 6-7 year old amp without HDMI, especially some of the higher end ones! However like my previous point, HDMI switching has become a very important and desireable feature to have on an amp and as such, a lot of knowledgeable users are taking this on board. We're not talking amongst people who simply walk into a high street shop and buy anything the salesman says is good.