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A few miles but not very old and has the Icon lights, aluminium trim wouldn't be my preference but it's personal choice: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108166304544

This does appear to be the least terrible option but wow, 80k miles and still 25k. Ignoring the mileage the spec is really quite nice which is often rare on a G31.

If you can possibly avoid buying a car at the moment then really, really do so.

My plan when I bought my F10 530d at 1 year old in 2016 was to run it for 5 years and and then replace it with a 1 year old 530d again, or perhaps something similar if things had changed. At one point I thought an M340i would be nice. I've well and truly shelved that plan.
 
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I need a car really, so have to get something soon. Little point leasing something as the deals are awful so might as well buy outright and keep hence why I want something decent. Having the latest version of tech is not something I ever really bother about which is why an F10 era car is just fine for the purposes I need.
 
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Good God nooooo. :D

A4 is fine when you get one as a hire car, but not to live with unless it has an RS badge. XF just no..... Ovlov I am open to, did find myself looking at imported 850R's last night which seem to all be around 10K....but not manual. I would consider one for sure though after I spotted one at Caffeine and Machine and though it looked the nuts.

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It sounded fantastic.
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I need a car really, so have to get something soon. Little point leasing something as the deals are awful so might as well buy outright and keep hence why I want something decent. Having the latest version of tech is not something I ever really bother about which is why an F10 era car is just fine for the purposes I need.

Looking at what's available, you're probably looking at the best part of £20k for a 530/535d F10 Touring with OK spec, I think I'd sooner have that newer G31, on balance...

The F Series cars are still fine, I don't really have any tech missing on my F01 compared to newer models, that I really care about anyway. NBT iDrive is still great with maps updated and RTTI etc.
 
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Looking at what's available, you're probably looking at the best part of £20k for a 530/535d F10 Touring with OK spec, I think I'd sooner have that newer G31, on balance...

I would too but other than that higher mileage one you're looking at 30k for a nice one of those. I think I'd rather limit how much cash you invest in massively overpriced cars.
 
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If you don't want to add a huge amount to the budget I'd drop the requirement for a 6 cylinder and get a 4 cylinder (likely a petrol for me at least) G series car until recently I would have always taken the 6 cylinder over a 4 but the price F series car's are going for is crazy it was only a 3-4 years ago you could pick up a 6 cylinder F car under a year old for around 25-26k and they feel dated once you get back in one from a well spec'd G series car.

I think diesel models are going to get hit hard when the prices do finally collapse on them as I am sure the government will do something to make them less popular to get people into electric cars something along the lines of upping the duty on diesel compared to petrol etc.
 
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I have a 2010 525d F11 on 130k miles so probably worth 4-5k that is starting to feel its age. A 5 series with 6cylinders is pretty much the only car I want just can't quite stomach the cost to change to an LCI where I'll essentially be getting an updated versions of the car and engine. Or an extra £20k to get into a G30
 
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Finally joined the club and managed to get into the M3!
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Bought this a few days back and loving it so far! Want to get some exhaust mods done as its too quiet for me :(
 
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I have a 2010 525d F11 on 130k miles so probably worth 4-5k that is starting to feel its age. A 5 series with 6cylinders is pretty much the only car I want just can't quite stomach the cost to change to an LCI where I'll essentially be getting an updated versions of the car and engine.

I actually did just this - I had a 2010 530d and I changed it for a year old LCI in 2016. It might have seemed like an odd move but I went from a 6 year old car to a 1 year old car and the little LCI improvements made all the difference for me. I'm much happier with this car than I was with my first one. It also helped that I moved to an M Sport at the same time, my 2010 was an SE with Dynamic Pack as the M Sport wasn't available until later in 2010.

It was even the same colour :D
 
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I actually did just this - I had a 2010 530d and I changed it for a year old LCI in 2016. It might have seemed like an odd move but I went from a 6 year old car to a 1 year old car and the little LCI improvements made all the difference for me. I'm much happier with this car than I was with my first one. It also helped that I moved to an M Sport at the same time, my 2010 was an SE with Dynamic Pack as the M Sport wasn't available until later in 2010.

It was even the same colour :D

I might go test drive an LCI to see how different it feels, similar to you mine is an early car so SE with sport seats and pro nav
 
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I have a 2010 525d F11 on 130k miles so probably worth 4-5k that is starting to feel its age. A 5 series with 6cylinders is pretty much the only car I want just can't quite stomach the cost to change to an LCI where I'll essentially be getting an updated versions of the car and engine. Or an extra £20k to get into a G30
What about it is feeling it's age?
 
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My first one was an SE with the Sport seats, 19 inch wheels, etc - but non M Sport suspension as the M Sport model didn't come out until September 2010 and mine was a March 2010 launch car. I thought the 'sporty' bits of the Dynamic Pack would be enough, but I was never happy with it and traded it in after just over 2 years.

By contrast, I am very happy with my LCI M Sport. It's certainly worth a drive at least to see what you think. Probably one of my favourite things is the crap plastic squeaky seat base has been redesigned on the LCI :D

The engine is slightly different too - fundamentally it's the same but the LCI is the more powerful, Euro 6 compliant version of the N57 which I also prefer, too. The 530d moved to 258bhp from 245bhp. Your 525d will be the 204bhp version of the same earlier engine, so an LCI 530d will feel really quite good coming from that.

My F10 LCI still feels modern and nice enough that I've no issues waiting out the ridiculous car market at present and hopefully moving to the next-gen 5 Series after the G30. I often drive other newer BMW's and never feel like I'm stepping down when I'm back in mine.
 
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What about it is feeling it's age?

Suspension - it passed an MOT last month so i'm assuming there is nothing obvioulsly wrong with it but it definetly has a general loose feeling, particularly the rear. I've had it for 4yrs and other than tyres brakes and servicing its only needed track rod ends and a replacement suspension airbag so most of it is still from factory with 130k of wear on it.

The other thing has always been a bugbear of mine, it has halogen lights. I assumed when I bought it that headlight washers + a premium car = HID but not so for this. Wife has a new Kodiaq with matrix led's which are making these even worse by comparison as they are leagues ahead.
 
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I always felt the handling on the SE was 'ok' rather than great, so you'll have a combination there of aging suspension and also the fact it isn't M Sport suspension. By contrast I think on my current one the balance between comfort and handling is absolutely spot on.

It's also worth noting that all LCI have Xenon as standard.
 
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Suspension - it passed an MOT last month so i'm assuming there is nothing obvioulsly wrong with it but it definetly has a general loose feeling, particularly the rear. I've had it for 4yrs and other than tyres brakes and servicing its only needed track rod ends and a replacement suspension airbag so most of it is still from factory with 130k of wear on it.

The other thing has always been a bugbear of mine, it has halogen lights. I assumed when I bought it that headlight washers + a premium car = HID but not so for this. Wife has a new Kodiaq with matrix led's which are making these even worse by comparison as they are leagues ahead.
If you sell it let me know, could do with something for a few months
 
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