Borderlands 2 PhysX can be forced to run on the CPU

Mal X · 22 Sep 2012 at 18:42

they've improved the lighting/ colouring/ map design enormously, it looks miles better than NEW HAVEN.

Mal X · 22 Sep 2012 at 18:44

Sorry, i cant delete this 2nd post

Physics X ........oh well lets hope it runs ok monday night !

Final8y · 22 Sep 2012 at 18:56

Spenty said:
That video above is hardly testing it on high. Go find an area with lots of enemies and exploding barrels.

Well that's all i could find on youtube with AMD.

phr4n · 22 Sep 2012 at 19:54

phr4n said:
wondering how this will run on a quad? any benches of different cpus?

Runs pretty well for me on my rig (in sig). 50 - 80 most of the time, dropped to 35 when things got a little hectic. PhysX on Medium.

Same as my Oc philosophy - something for nothing is better than nothing for nothing

Mr. May · 23 Sep 2012 at 11:59

Would my system run better changing my physx from my 670 sli to my 3930K @4.5 ?

As @ 2560x1440 there can be a bit of slow down in high physx momets as my gpu's are being maxxed my cpu is no where near taxxed, so would it be better to move the load over or will it be poorly optimised ?

Thanks in advance

metalmackey · 23 Sep 2012 at 15:14

Mr. May said:
Would my system run better changing my physx from my 670 sli to my 3930K @4.5 ?

As @ 2560x1440 there can be a bit of slow down in high physx momets as my gpu's are being maxxed my cpu is no where near taxxed, so would it be better to move the load over or will it be poorly optimised ?

Thanks in advance

No.

Mal X · 23 Sep 2012 at 16:47

phr4n said:
Runs pretty well for me on my rig (in sig). 50 - 80 most of the time, dropped to 35 when things got a little hectic. PhysX on Medium.

Same as my Oc philosophy - something for nothing is better than nothing for nothing

well just stand at range and shoot the *******s with a sniper rifle instead, the 1100 damage Detonating Cobra will wipe them out instantly

no worries

imginy · 23 Sep 2012 at 21:33

Mr. May said:
Would my system run better changing my physx from my 670 sli to my 3930K @4.5 ?

As @ 2560x1440 there can be a bit of slow down in high physx momets as my gpu's are being maxxed my cpu is no where near taxxed, so would it be better to move the load over or will it be poorly optimised ?

Thanks in advance

Just got told people are having drivers issues with 670 sli on borderlands so it might just be bad drivers causing your slow down.

Mal X · 23 Sep 2012 at 22:55

imginy said:
Just got told people are having drivers issues with 670 sli on borderlands so it might just be bad drivers causing your slow down.

uum the smart thing to do is wait another week before downloading, because this game looks like it needs patching.

unfortunately there's no way i'm waiting :mad:

C64 · 23 Sep 2012 at 23:17

Reason why they wont be getting my money for borderlands 2 if games companies want to alienate half the pc gaming world by siding with nvidia and making their game run crap on ati then they lose my custom.

Gregster · 23 Sep 2012 at 23:20

C64 said:
Reason why they wont be getting my money for borderlands 2 if games companies want to alienate half the pc gaming world by siding with nvidia and making their game run crap on ati then they lose my custom.

The trouble is, it is done both ways. I wish they would just be fair and give both AMD and Nvidia the best playing experience instead of nobbling the oponents cards

tommybhoy · 23 Sep 2012 at 23:54

C64 said:
Reason why they wont be getting my money for borderlands 2 if games companies want to alienate half the pc gaming world by siding with nvidia and making their game run crap on ati then they lose my custom.

In the case of B2 though, it isn't hobbled at all afaik, it's simply lacking a feature that wouldn't have been in the game if Nvidia didn't pay them too.

I see where your coming from, but right or wrong, it won't help the PC gaming scene much buy refusing to buy because of PhysX, plus if it's your type of game, then your the loser, not Gearbox.

I have bought whatever title I want regardless, I'm a patient bloke, if it needs fixed, I can wait a bit for the driver team as they should be able to do something, usually, they do.

C2 was heavy on the tessellation, but it didn't take long for it to play well on AMD, DA2 had issues with Nvidia(don't have a clue what it was), they fixed it too.

Hopefully both AMD/Nvidia pick up from the 'public outcry' when it happens and think again before doing any more 'sneaky tactics'.

If anything, lately, most of the sponsored titles work better on the other vendors gpu's anyway.

Mal X · 24 Sep 2012 at 00:43

it's only a real problem if the game crashes and from what i've read it doesn't, it just slows down in big fights to about 30fps, which is exactly what my old rig gave me on Serious Sam BFE, all the way through ! :eek:

imginy · 24 Sep 2012 at 01:07

Gav_881 said:
WooT games making use of CPU power, now buying the 3770K over the 3570K wasn't a waste.

I knew that it wouldn't be long

I am ready to buy a new processor for playing this and battlefield,

Do you think I would benefit from buying the 3770k over the 3570?

GoogalyMoogaly · 24 Sep 2012 at 01:17

C64 said:
Reason why they wont be getting my money for borderlands 2 if games companies want to alienate half the pc gaming world by siding with nvidia and making their game run crap on ati then they lose my custom.

Surely if PhysX is something you (or others) think is important then you'd/they'd have bought a Nvidia card for that reason (if you/they haven't already)?
It's not like Nvidia cards are rubbish compared to AMD BUT have PhysX

TAC4U · 24 Sep 2012 at 01:46

PhysX doesn't concern me one way or the other. I'd rather developers implemented a universal system through DX11 but when there's money involved that's too much to hope for. That said, the PhysX implementation in Borderlands 2 is the best I've seen to date and it really does add to the game - the vortex grenades are particularly impressive.

My biggest problem is that SLI doesn't work and I get framerate drops during co-op. The second card only appears to be used for PhysX, which is better than nothing but my framerate sometimes drops to 40fps (2560x1600 - max settings) in some scenes despite running great elsewhere - the trouble is it only occurs in some scenes, which means it's not worth lowering my settings. In singleplayer I haven't seen it drop below 60fps.

I'm hoping a patch or driver update will get things running a bit more smoothly. I remember the original Borderlands didn't support Crossfire at first with the HD5970 I had at the time, which was one of the few games that didn't run at a minimum of 60fps - a driver update some months later fixed the issue.

Tonester0011 · 24 Sep 2012 at 01:50

TAC4U said:
PhysX doesn't concern me one way or the other. I'd rather developers implemented a universal system through DX11 but when there's money involved that's too much to hope for. That said, the PhysX implementation in Borderlands 2 is the best I've seen to date and it really does add to the game - the vortex grenades are particularly impressive.

My biggest problem is that SLI doesn't work and I get framerate drops during co-op. The second card only appears to be used for PhysX, which is better than nothing but my framerate sometimes drops to 40fps (2560x1600 - max settings) in some scenes despite running great elsewhere - the trouble is it only occurs in some scenes, which means it's not worth lowering my settings. In singleplayer I haven't seen it drop below 60fps.

I'm hoping a patch or driver update will get things running a bit more smoothly. I remember the original Borderlands didn't support Crossfire at first with the HD5970 I had at the time, which was one of the few games that didn't run at a minimum of 60fps - a driver update some months later fixed the issue.

Crossfire is pretty pants as well.
Latest CAPs and during CO-OP in some places was getting 20FPS. Turned off CF much better frames, in the 100s. (1080 res)

C64 · 24 Sep 2012 at 03:43

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Surely if PhysX is something you (or others) think is important then you'd/they'd have bought a Nvidia card for that reason (if you/they haven't already)?
It's not like Nvidia cards are rubbish compared to AMD BUT have PhysX

Not really the point it's more about why make it so a game looking it's best is only selectable if you happen to have some third parties computer product what has that to do with games that would be like having an ati xbox and an nvidia one with each having exclusive games that look better on one and worse on the other, the console crowd wouldn't stand for it.

It's pandering to the childish my cards better than yours crowd, something which should be left to them to argue about between themselves and leave the games out of it.Not sure how it works do Nvidia basically pay someone to put their features or logo in ? It's a trend in gaming starting to creep in hope it doesn't end up where high details etc are only selectable if you happen to have that games choice of gpu sponsor.

Rusty0611 · 24 Sep 2012 at 07:27

TAC4U said:
PhysX doesn't concern me one way or the other. I'd rather developers implemented a universal system through DX11 but when there's money involved that's too much to hope for. That said, the PhysX implementation in Borderlands 2 is the best I've seen to date and it really does add to the game - the vortex grenades are particularly impressive.

My biggest problem is that SLI doesn't work and I get framerate drops during co-op. The second card only appears to be used for PhysX, which is better than nothing but my framerate sometimes drops to 40fps (2560x1600 - max settings) in some scenes despite running great elsewhere - the trouble is it only occurs in some scenes, which means it's not worth lowering my settings. In singleplayer I haven't seen it drop below 60fps.

I'm hoping a patch or driver update will get things running a bit more smoothly. I remember the original Borderlands didn't support Crossfire at first with the HD5970 I had at the time, which was one of the few games that didn't run at a minimum of 60fps - a driver update some months later fixed the issue.

At 5760*1080 I'm getting fine performance - you using latest drivers?

IRLeetly · 24 Sep 2012 at 11:15

I am currently trying this with physX set to medium with a MSI TFIII 7850 2gb @1920x1080 and an i5 760 OC'd to 4GHz.

Frames do drop a fair bit in gunfights but when you go into the mines like chapter 11 or so iirc, there is toxic waste everywhere and it does struggle.

Although it seemed to hold its own when doing moxxis slaughter dome. Lots of mobs and gunfights it was alright, playable and no noticeable struggle.