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Brexit Discussion

Discussion in 'SC Archive' started by FrenchTart, Sep 11, 2016.

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  1. Cern

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    Well if you weren't trying to fit that role, why did you feel the need to start a post with the qualifier:

    How many generations does someone need to be here before they are no longer considered a "migrant" in your view then? If third generation is still a migrant, when does it stop I wonder? Ever?

    Go far enough back and most of us are migrants, even many who don't actually think they are until they research their family trees.
     
  2. humbug

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    The question was leave or remain, leave won.

    The 2016 polls showed a remain win.
     
  3. ColdAsIce

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    A General Election will solve nothing unfortunately. Labour have quite clearly crunched the numbers and feel like their best position is supporting all the North of England towns that some how believe all their woes are the fault of hardworking Polish doing the jobs they don't even want and that somehow refugees from Syria etc are also the fault of the EU. The Lib Dems have a massive media problem. They are struggling to get their message across. I hear more from Tommy Robinson and JRM than I do from the Lib Dems in main stream media.
     
  4. Stretch

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    Then it should win again.
     
  5. humbug

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    Which is why that question will not be asked again.
     
  6. Stretch

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    We all know that's not why the question isn't being asked again.
     
  7. terley

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    [​IMG]
     
  8. Cern

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    Yes, but the swing to Leave on the night was within the margin of error.

    Most polls are not "wildly wrong" as you put it, when they get it wrong most are within the margin of error.

    No getting away from it I'm afraid, even allowing for margin of error the UK is now in favour of Remain and has been for some time. This doesn't necessarily mandate a second vote, but it does mean that plans to push ahead with a No Deal exit are going to meet with a lot of resistance, particularly if it impacts them negatively.
     
  9. humbug

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    I don't agree.
     
  10. Stretch

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    It's difficult to know what you don't agree with
     
  11. humbug

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    I made my stance on Brexit clear a few pages back.
     
  12. Stretch

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    Me too. It doesn't really help with the specifics of the current discussion.
     
  13. humbug

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    What do you want to know?
     
  14. Mr Badger

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    Excuse me, what are you talking about? Did Labour whip against the 4 indicative parliament votes or did the Tories?
     
  15. Stretch

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    What you found disagreeable about my post.
     
  16. humbug

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    This should explain it
     
  17. Stretch

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    So you don't want to vote again because you think there's a strong possibility leave might lose.
     
  18. humbug

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    We won, only an idiot would agree to voting again when they won, i'm not an idiot.
     
  19. Mr Badger

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    [​IMG]
     
  20. humbug

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    He lost, he's making a #### argument to give up my position so he can have another go at it.

    Of course not.
     
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