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Brexit Discussion

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by FrenchTart, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. matt100

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    Think of it as talking to a random answer generator :D

    All your base are belong to brexit etc :)
     
  2. DarkHorizon472

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    Which is your preferred version of brexit ?

    Does it benefit the UK ?
     
  3. billysielu

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    You have no chance to survive make your time.
    Ha ha ha ha …
     
  4. Mr Badger

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    People voted for a no deal Brexit back in 2016:

     
  5. thenewoc

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    Brexit Party broadcast for the current campaign, for clarification is...

     
  6. do_ron_ron

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    Anybody who thinks the European Election vote will somehow 'Change Politics' is frankly delusional. The two big parties have already written them off.
     
  7. DarkHorizon472

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    The biggest betrayal was when Farage ran off straight after the result leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces of the mess he had a large part in creating.

    Now he is back with no policies, no manifesto, no plan and still by pure coincidence / bad luck being again associated with intolerant racists. He must be the unluckiest politician in history to accidentally have that association throughout his time as a politician.
     
  8. thenewoc

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    It's democracy again for you! Since there's only one democratic vehicle at the moment then the EU election is the only vehicle to elect someone to at the moment isn't it. This also sends a political message to Parliament on what proportion is for a WTO Brexit which quite frankly appears to be the only option being put on the table by anyone other than those parties actually campaigning to remain and overturn a democratic referendum, is that really what you want for the UK? If it is, it's a dangerous precedence to set for future democracy if you only want remain supporters to vote in future elections, that isn't listening to the people and democratically representing a nation. Seems we can only have democracy when everyone wants socialism :rolleyes: otherwise you must be denied a voice.
     
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  9. chroniclard

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    Are all brexiters endless liars.....
     
  10. thenewoc

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    He wasn't a Conservative MP let alone PM to actually implement it though was he. You could say the same about Boris & Gove too, at least they were Conservatives. Don't ask me how TM got elected as PM, probably because behind the scenes the Conservative party are mainly pro remain therefore they installed a pro remain PM, hence some of the problems with how the negotiations were set up, it was wrong to split the negotiations into separate pieces. It was wrong not to stick to the original deadline of March 29th as not sticking to that was showing our hand to the EU.
     
  11. chroniclard

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    Anything to defend Nigel, you are voting for a proven liar who duped you once already, now he is back to hoodwink you again, brainwashed the ignorant.
     
  12. DarkHorizon472

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    Based on your comment after 7 failed attempts he isn’t an MP or PM now so he can’t implement anything this time either. It is a waste of a vote as he has no policies, no manifesto, no plan and as you say no way to implement anything either.

    The negotiations were doomed to failure instantly as the UK did not know in practical real life detail what it wanted. We will work it out as we go along when going up against the EU who see it as a formal, structured, legal process is suicidal. The hung parliament and government infighting came second to this.
     
  13. thenewoc

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    Or you could be brain washed into socialist agenda since you've most likely been educated from a toddler in a pro socialist education system.
     
  14. chroniclard

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    Whats socialism got to do with lies? Please just stop.

    Please tell us why you are backing proven liar Farage?
     
  15. thenewoc

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    It's certainly not a waste of a vote since it sends a message as to what support exists in the country for the WTO Brexit and other pledges made by The Brexit Party. Political change isn't an instant thing, it takes time, look how long the Lib Dems have been around and they've not made it into power recently other than a coalition with the Tories after selling out on student fee commitments that they subsequently chose not to keep.
     
  16. thenewoc

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    Because many of you could well have been brain washed since childhood in a socialist education system that your mind is closed to anything else other than socialist politics of which the EU is.

    I don't believe Nigel Farage to be a liar. He's made pledges as part of his campaigns just as other politicians do. Do you accuse Lib Dems of being liars when they don't receive enough votes to form a Government?
     
  17. DarkHorizon472

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    The brexit party has no policies, no manifesto and no plan. It is simply making vague pledges which as you suggest it can’t follow through on and is lead by someone with a track record of delivering nothing due to running off when the real work has to begin. An example of this is once UKIP won Thanet council the reality of the responsibility actually getting things done hit them. As usual Farage ran off and numerous councillors defected away from UKIP to allow them to perform their role properly.
     
  18. chroniclard

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    Made statements, ran away, came back again, denied making previous statements, he is a liar.
     
  19. loftie

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    What's a socialist education system? :confused:
     
  20. DarkHorizon472

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    That’s the real core of the problem. If you used that approach negotiating with the EU it would cause immense damage to the UK.