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Brexit Discussion

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by FrenchTart, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. matt100

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    Once again, specifically what about Marxism don't you like?
     
  2. Harlequin

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  3. FishFluff

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    Oh cut that ******** out. The Remain demographic drops off for the over-65s and then peaks again once you hit the generation that fought in WW2. They know what a divided Europe looks like. It's the boomers who came after who are voting leave.
     
  4. do_ron_ron

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    The generation who were fed the wartime exploits and 'we won the war' etc in post war age. As you say this starts to fall off in the next generation.
     
  5. McstylisT

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    The idiot Corbyn will never get into office if people stand by what they want now. He is totally unelectable and long may his labour reign continue as they will do jack squat.
     
  6. McstylisT

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    What a bunch of super leaders we currently have. #vomitinmouth
     
  7. McstylisT

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    I know real Marxists :D :D

    They may not like him ( because he is a unlikable human being ) but that doesn’t stop him being one I’m afraid. Communist through and through.
     
  8. Harlequin

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    Again he isn't a communist or Marxist. Socialist YES, but not a communist. Please explain why you think he is a Marxist and not a socialist
     
  9. Harlequin

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    Just because you don't like him, many many others do - look at Peterborough ;)
     
  10. Mr Badger

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    Of that I am in absolutely no doubt.

    спокойной ночи товарищ.
     
  11. matt100

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    Very obvious some on here don't even understand the insults they're hurling.

    Kinda sad tbh but very telling
     
  12. Caracus2k

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    I think appointing a self proclaimed Marxist as your shadow Chancellor might just be a hint at Corbyn's political views?

    If a tory leader appointed a self proclaimed facist as their minster for defence or home secretary i am sure an inference might just be drawn.....

    We for starters.......

    Marxism is a form of socialism and socialism has universally, when it's been given a few years to play out, been shown to be a sub optimal way to run a country often leading to mass starvation, population exodus, totalitarian rule and general suppression of individual rights.

    (socialism isn't to be confused with 'social democracies which isn't the same thing)

    Ironically remaining in the EU would currently actually inhibit some of the excesses that a Socialist party might try to foist on the UK populace if they ever came to power.

    (which might have something to do with the consistent body of anti EU statements made by Corbyn and his lacklustre support for remain)

    The EU is one of the few areas I can find some common ground with Corbyn (albeit maybe not for entirely the same reasons).

     
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  13. Harlequin

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    And yet for such a self proclaimed anyone, Labour policies are not Marxist.....



    Please support any of your blanket statements with citations; if you mention ANY south American country I will happily counter that with the McCarthy doctrine.

    Again please support your answer - what `excesses` are you talking about
     
  14. garnett

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    Boris just alienated every Brexiteer with any integrity, who claimed Brexit was worth "a bit of short term pain"...

     
  15. Harlequin

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    Oh look - using nearly 50% of the money saved from stupidly hard austerity - to give his pals extra money! And apparently socialism is a bad thing.....
     
  16. a1ex2001

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    Everything is ok as long as the rich are getting richer which is after all the main aim of the hardline bexiteer politicians! It’s practically insider trading from the ERG who are likely making a tidy profit each time we get close to leaving and then bottle it!
     
  17. Harlequin

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    I do believe Mr Rees-Mogg senior wrote a book about this ;)
     
  18. Freakbro

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    That's none then :p

    And I see he's also going to part fund it with a rise in National Insurance contributions as well, a favourite Tory technique, since it doesn't have "Tax" in the name people stupidly don't think of it as the same thing. Also since the NI rise would be paid by everybody, including those under the higher rate tax band, it just wouldn't be complete unless it was taking from the poor(er) and giving to the rich(er) would it :rolleyes:

    And I say this as someone who was paying the 40% band before the current threshold increase.
     
  19. V F

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    Most of them are students. Promised to pay off their debts.
     
  20. Freakbro

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    Got a citation that the majority of people who voted for Labour in PB were students?