Bruce Lee vs Modern Martial Arts

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Recently i have been watching a lot of Pride and UFC and i was wondering if u get the legend in the ring, do u reckon he would get this liver handed to him vs these modern guys with their take downs and mounts?

Lee with his kicks wouldnt stand a chance right?
 
No real idea what your talking about but Lee > *

His form of martial arts "jeet kune do" (spelling?) no one ever really mastered except him.

His idea was to read a persons body position and to be able to tell what they were going to do before they did it, therefore enabling him to dodge/block and counter anything thrown at him.

I would think whatever these guys are doing it will be inferior to his style.
 
A well rounded MMA fighter at the top of his game would hand Lee's ass to him on a silver platter yes.

But no doubt some traditionalists will state that Lee was a god, and founded Jeet Kune Do, and won loads of Martial Arts Contests by saying 'boo' or some nonsense.
 
That's a hard question to answer. Bruce Lee wasn't the biggest of guys, but he was extremely fast and accurate with his kicks and punches. I think he would outsmart a lot of fighters and avoid being hit quite well in a 1 vs 1 situation and then go in for the kill when the time is right.
 
He'd beat plenty of people, but there must be people out there who could beat him. Besides, there's always going to be some element of chance to these things so you can't say 100% that he'd win even when on top form.
 
A lot of what Lee was doing with Jeet Kun Do was the fore runner of MMA anyway. He took the best from existing traditional arts reduced it to the essentials and formulated a very effective martial art without the baggage.

Lee v MM Artist or UFC, I just don't know. I expect Lee woulkd do the business, he was just so fast I doubt the steroid bloated meatheads in UFC could get near him.

I train in Shotokan and have no real interest in ever getting in a ring with those nutjobs (they would hand my liver and a number of other vital organs to me on a silver platter, no mistake) but I have never seen a really good karateka fight one of these UFC boys. I know in the early days there was the odd fight and the traditionalists got creamed but what would happen if a really good, very experienced karateka had to do the business. Some of the old Japanese fellas I used to train with (5th, 6th and 7th Dans) were so hard and so fast I doubt anyone could touch them. Who knows?
 
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It's very hard to say....against people in the same weight I think he would have dominated. However Bruce was incredibly strong for his size and many agree he was probably pound for pound the strongest man on the planet at that time.

MMA fighters are a different breed though, as much as people like to think it's just like a street fight.....it's not, it's a sport. If you read Bruce's writings he always dealt in propper street fighting where litrally anything goes, one of his favourite techniques was the finger jab to the eyes. He talks about hitting the groin, pulling the hair punching the throat and even biting!....fights are ended very quickly when you can be this brutal.

People forget that Bruce did ground fighting though, the only film this is shown in is Game of Death but in his writings he believed the ground game was important, he was primarily a striker though. I have trained with Larry Hartsell one of Bruces original students who now specialises in Jeet Kune Do ground fighting.

Bruce was a pioneer his influence on the Martial Arts world and cross training methods is unmeasurable. He cut through all the bull and hocus pokus of martial arts and made people question what they were doing.

Maybe he would be matched today but it's safe to say there would be no UFC or Pride without Bruce Lee
 
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Mana said:
Recently i have been watching a lot of Pride and UFC and i was wondering if u get the legend in the ring, do u reckon he would get this liver handed to him vs these modern guys with their take downs and mounts?

Lee with his kicks wouldnt stand a chance right?
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You know that Bruce Lee's not really dead, dont you?
 
While Lee is a very influential figure, he would get his ass kicked by numerous top MMA fighters, absolutely no question about it :p

It's not a fair comparison though; even Royce Gracie (a dominant fighter in the 90s) would be absolutely ruined by many fighters today. Royce was a pioneer of bjj with no standup ability, Lee is exactly the opposite. Today it's very apparent that you need to adopt both styles to compete, especially in their weight bracket.

Take a look at Fedor, Matt Hughes, Silva, Crocop or the Nog brothers. They are complete fighters with no real weaknesses.
 
mysticsniper said:
I think Bruce would be very good in the UFC, when you see Bruce in action with his 1 inch punch, would have devestating affects in the UFC. I would see bruce like that fella Hoice Gracie (spelling?), who did quite well a few years ago :)

Here is a short video of the Legend in action

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/23745/bruce_lee_training/
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What plugin am I missing, I cant see that vid and FF asks me to download a missing plugin, but doesnt know what it is.
 
NetherV said:
Royce was a pioneer of bjj with no standup ability, Lee is exactly the opposite. Today it's very apparent that you need to adopt both styles to compete, especially in their weight bracket.
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Well thats simply not true, if you understood what Jeet Kune Do was about you would know the idea was to be the complete fighter. I have trained with his student who specialises in the ground game....
 
mysticsniper said:
I think Bruce would be very good in the UFC, when you see Bruce in action with his 1 inch punch, would have devestating affects in the UFC. I would see bruce like that fella Hoice Gracie (spelling?), who did quite well a few years ago :)

Here is a short video of the Legend in action

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/23745/bruce_lee_training/
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Amazing vid, how long in training to do the 1 arm finger and thumb press up
 
NetherV said:
While Lee is a very influential figure, he would get his ass kicked by numerous top MMA fighters, absolutely no question about it :p

It's not a fair comparison though; even Royce Gracie (a dominant fighter in the 90s) would be absolutely ruined by many fighters today. Royce was a pioneer of bjj with no standup ability, Lee is exactly the opposite. Today it's very apparent that you need to adopt both styles to compete, especially in their weight bracket.

Take a look at Fedor, Matt Hughes, Silva, Crocop or the Nog brothers. They are complete fighters with no real weaknesses.
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im not so sure... bruce lee was trained with very old and very well tested methods. his martial arts form was supposed to teach you how to defeat any oponent in 60 seconds, however very few have ever mastered it fully. also his physical fitness and abillity was far beyond that of most MMA fighters, indeed he was almost shao lin like in his application and maintenence of his body, i.e. 1 finger push ups ect ect.
 
I have to agree with Mookjong, I am no martial arts master (not even a student) however I have done a lot of reading about bruce, his teachings, his philosophy.

Now this other "fighting style" your talking about, I must admit I dont know a lot about, but I find it hard to believe that any modern day fighter would commmit themselves in the way he did to his fighting style.
 
locutus12 said:
im not so sure... bruce lee was trained with very old and very well tested methods. his martial arts form was supposed to teach you how to defeat any oponent in 60 seconds, however very few have ever mastered it fully. also his physical fitness and abillity was far beyond that of most MMA fighters, indeed he was almost shao lin like in his application and maintenence of his body, i.e. 1 finger push ups ect ect.
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Bruces background was in Wing Chun Kung Fu, which is where the finger jabs to the eyes etc comes from. Not sure where 60 seconds thing comes from to defeat your opponent in a street fight should take around 3-10 seconds.
 
I recon bruce *** kick ass, his strike speed was so fast, he was so agile, he was pound for pound one of the strongest guys ever, also he knows street 'cause didnt he used to pick fights against people with knives n stuff in HK, just look at his 1inch punch etc & didnt jet li or jacky chan say being kicked by him was like being hit by a car or something, and the fact he trained by punching bags full of metal shavings or whatever!!

he had a 60 second knock out thing or something didnt he i dont know :\ but there is something about 60seconds against other well trained martial artists!
 
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