Building a Decent Gaming rig (although i might have over cooked it)

PhoenixUK said:
Sorry if I've missed something but could you please post a link to that review?

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Ah and regarding PC that's gonna last 6yrs, it's probably the worst thing you can ever do ;-).
Sure, your 1500 PC wil last 4-5yrs, but my my 700PC with 2x400 upgrades will last double that. The key is to get the best price / performance ratio for the needs, which for high quality (1920x1200) gaming rig is around 900-1000 for the first rig and then it's just small upgrades and trades on the way. Just buying fastest you can is a total waste of money because a game that plays at 60FPS on a 460 isn't going to look or play any better on a 480

The only parts that I'd spend more cash than usual on are good watercooling, case, PSU, mouse, kb, monitor and depending on the upgrade possibilities maybe motherboard if it offers better upgrade path.
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since wen am i building a £1500 rig?:confused::confused:
dont make stuff up

the core and foundation of the rig im building is £800 (case/1000w psu/board/cpu/memory) this wont have to be changed for a long time.
isnt that wot your going by? isnt this wot ive done? u said it 2seconds ago and its wots ive been trying to
say since i started to post in this thread. WAKE UP!

ive never suggested the 480 to the OP wot are you on about?
the 470 is the best "Single" value/performance card out atm
the prices r already low and will be lower wen the new ATi
card coms out. get a 470 now and 1 in January and it will smoke
a single 480 and SLI 460s which every1 is jumping to get now :confused::confused: i dont need to say this every1 knows.

look at your last quote you said it yourself. its in black and white (no white and blue)
it came out of your own mouth.

"motherboard if it offers better upgrade path."

does an i7 motherboard offer a better upgrade path than an i5 board?:confused:
your going into i5 with a 760 its the last cpu in the line. you go i7 930 theres 2 potential more chips for u to pop in.

Edit: sorry i forgot link to review http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/overclock-cpu-build-a-pc,review-31987.html

Edit again: think i posted wrong link. its this 1 ^^
 
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surely by the time the OP upgrades his cpu/mobo there will be newer/better ones out.
and it has been said the most important thing is for the OP to enjoy whichever setup he goes for.
 
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PhoenixUK said:
Sorry if I've missed something but could you please post a link to that review?
Not that you'll need a 2 480s anyways within the next 2yrs unless you game with 3x 24" with 24xAA but I'd like to see it anyways.
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Ah and regarding PC that's gonna last 6yrs, it's probably the worst thing you can ever do ;-).
Sure, your 1500 PC wil last 4-5yrs, but my my 700PC with 2x400 upgrades will last double that.

The key is to get the best price / performance ratio for the needs, which for high quality (1920x1200) gaming rig is around 900-1000 for the first rig and then it's just small upgrades and trades on the way.

Just buying fastest you can is a total waste of money because a game that plays at 60FPS on a 460 isn't going to look or play any better on a 480 and by the time the 480 will be used to it's full potential over the 460, it will be another year, and by that time, there'll be probably another GPU that will cost less or same as the difference between 460 and 480 AND be better than the 480.

The only parts that I'd spend more cash than usual on are good watercooling, case, PSU, mouse, kb, monitor and depending on the upgrade possibilities maybe motherboard if it offers better upgrade path.
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+1
 
Liampope said:
To clarify - my i5 spec was all about bang-for-buck (a concept mr jakesnake doesn't seem to understand:)) right here and now, as that is my personal way of evaluating PC purchases. 17 odd years of building and upgrading

So I was going purely gaming bang-for-buck with the i5 and tring to make the point that if the OP has a limited budget he should not compromise GPU by going i7 because bang-for-buck will seriously suffer.
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i have to go back to this. im still STUNNED!!:eek::confused:

i feel sorry for the ppl who you have built systems for in the last "17 odd years"
because you just speced a £1400 rig and called it "bang for buck" :o:confused:

i think you should really read this page here. this shows u a "real" bang for buck system not the CRAZY INSANE £1400 u posted :eek:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buyers-guide/2010/09/07/pc-hardware-buyer-s-guide-september-2010/3

on another point. i think the problem on this forum is that theres far too
many "Bargin hunters" putting ther word across and making you think
your stupid and wasting money just because you want to go that bit extra which they hate
doing because ther tight.

you all may **** big.wayne off but hes right about 1 thing
theres a lot of "Personal Justification" on here. ppl wanna feel good about
ther bargin buys so they try to bring ppl who go that bit extra down.

@OP goodluck with ur build. your gonna LOVE IT! :cool:
 
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milkinc13 said:
AM3+ is backward compatable with AM3, same as AM2+ could take an AM2 chip but won't use the advances that the new socket/chips use.

How can you say a i7 will last longer than PhenomII x6? that makes no scence to me!

Podmonkey can you define a "gaming chip" so how can you say a hex core is not gaming chip?
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the top i7 would destroy the PhenomII x6 im afraid, so yes, it will last longer
 
jakesnake said:
On another point. i think the problem on this forum is that theres far too
many "Bargin hunters" putting ther word across and making you think
your stupid and wasting money just because you want to go that bit extra which they hate
doing because ther tight.

you all may **** big.wayne off but hes right about 1 thing
theres a lot of "Personal Justification" on here. ppl wanna feel good about
ther bargin buys so they try to bring ppl who go that bit extra down.
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Now to quote the OP

Now i think i might have over-cooked it and if you think maybe im spending money in places where im just wasting it please feel free to adjust.
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Read the OP, then read your posts...... then read your posts again. I don't think it needs explaining.



OP, I hope you can pick out a decent recommendation of a spec and disregard all the the other **** in your thread. I wish you well with the build and hope you enjoy your new PC.. whatever you choose.
 
NathanT said:
Now to quote the OP

Read the OP, then read your posts...... then read your posts again. I don't think it needs explaining.
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wot r u on abouttttttttt:confused::confused:

i dont need to read the OPs post ive already read them.

and certainly dont need to read my own u idiot because i said them.

you read wot the op said again

"I think" i may have overcooked it. and if "you think" maybe im spending
money "in places" where im just wasting it please "feel free to adjust."

well the overcooking comment says he doesnt no weather hes
spending far too much money or not.

"Personally" i dont think he is because hes not the only 1 who has
and will spend around this on a gaming rig.

I do however think hes spending it in the wrong sector. I dont think
you should be looking to spend near 1500 on an AMD rig when as Stulid
rightly pointed out in the very first comment,, you "can" afford an i7 ,,,
which will BLOW IT TO BITZ!!


Look nathan im not gonna go into it all again because its all down and saved for you to go back and look at.
You probably read the first post and the last page and just hoped in to
get your post count up and say LOOK MOMMA IM ON THE INTERNET!

And the LOL is that wot you quoted from me and tryed to match with the OP
is completly :confused::confused: ther is nothing linking them together
xcept maybe your saying that the OP is a bargin hunter and tight arse
which he clearly isnt wen hes specing himself a 1.5k rig to game on

its all been discussed the OP has the options on the table. You missed it
 
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Aqueitas said:
Hi folks,

Im looking to build a decent gaming Rig, something thats future proof enough to last me a couple years or so.

£169.99 ASUS CROSSHAIR IV
£224.99 AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail [HDT90ZFBGRBOX]
£152.73 Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Single-Channel Module [CMX4GX3M1A1333C9]x2
£279.99 HIS ATI Radeon HD 5870 iCooler V 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card [H587FN1GD]
£124.98 Antec 1200 Twelve Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black [0761345-08120-7
£128.99 Coolermaster Silent Pro Gold 800W Power Supply
£240.00 OCZ Vertex 2E 120GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive (OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G) [OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G]
£46.00 Samsung SH-B083L/RSBP 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (Retail)
£88.99 Corsair Hydro H70 High Performance CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3) [CWCH70]

£1,456

Now i think i might have over-cooked it and if you think maybe im spending money in places where im just wasting it please feel free to adjust.
I want to be able to play any game that comes out at high settings and play online multiplayers without much of a drop.

I look forward to your advice and help
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Welcome to the forums :)

Mad around here isn't it? :)

My 2p's worth

Overall it looks a well balanced build quite frankly :)
Not to dissimilar to a build offered by the professional builders at OCUK

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-262-OK&groupid=43&catid=1270&subcat=


Build summary here

Why Should You Buy This System?
- A guaranteed 4.00GHz performance for the price of 3.20GHz
- Six Core processing and DX11 performance.
- USB 3.0 and SATA-III compatible system
- Precision built and cabled by Overclockers UK expert technicians

System Specification
- Case: Antec Dark Fleet DF85 Gaming Case - Black
- Power Supply: Corsair Extreme 600W
- CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20Ghz overclocked to 4.00Ghz
- Motherboard: Asus Crosshair IV Formula 890FX
- Cooler: Corsair H50 CPU Cooler (H70 option available)
- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz
- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 16MB Cache
- Graphics Card: Choice of the latest DX11 graphics cards
- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive

If the professional builders are putting this gear together, there can't be much wrong with the system balance! :)

The only thing I would think about maybe would be the 5870. I have used a single 5870, XFired 5870's and now a 5970 and even a hybrid 5970/5870 TriFire for a short time. Great cards but the future retail value seems to be taking a hammering at the moment. Although I, for one, think that the card value will stabalise in the market. Already NVidia 400 series cards are appearing on the used market, so I wonder how good they really are and how many members are being , shall we say, economical, with the truth about these cards as well.

2p worth done!...:)
 
jakesnake said:
i have to go back to this. im still STUNNED!!:eek::confused:

i feel sorry for the ppl who you have built systems for in the last "17 odd years"
because you just speced a £1400 rig and called it "bang for buck" :o:confused:
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Grooooaaaaan:rolleyes::(

OP set a budget level with his initial post, although I was looking at Stulid's build when I offered my GPU-skewed i5 alternative. My build was what i considered to be best bang-for-buck AT THAT BUDGET LEVEL. Why is that hard for you to understand?:confused: The OP showed he wanted features like an expensive case, bluray, water cooler, SSD. I retained those in my build because I was actually considering the OP's needs/desires. Anyone can do a generic £800 super bang-for-buck build that completely ignores the OP's requirements and budget and well done to them! That wasn't my intention.

i think you should really read this page here. this shows u a "real" bang for buck system not the CRAZY INSANE £1400 u posted :eek:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buyers-guide/2010/09/07/pc-hardware-buyer-s-guide-september-2010/3
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What, that nice i5 system? lol:)

on another point. i think the problem on this forum is that theres far too
many "Bargin hunters" putting ther word across and making you think
your stupid and wasting money just because you want to go that bit extra which they hate
doing because ther tight.
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Lol - on another point, do you think you impress people with your £100 saving is nothing, I'm gonna spend loads for the hell of it comments?

I'd really really love to see your final spec before you buy. PLEASE post it! It will be fun to see just how much faster a system can be made for the same money ;) :p


@Essexraptor - OCUK are a retailer. They offer every option for every customer to maximise their sales. The AMD hex-core is NOT a good value for money gaming CPU. Anyone who's bought one for a pure gaming rig should have done their homework better. Sorry.
 
Bearing in mind the factual information that has come out of this thread.

- i7 + SLi = good
- You've never OC'd before
- SSDs are amazing

This kind of takes the hassle out of most of it.

Krypton Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz @ 4.00GHz Overclocked Bundle £549.99
(£468.08)
Asus GeForce GTX 470 V2 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with MAFIA 2 x2 £458.22
(£389.98)
Sapphire Pure 950W Modular Power Supply £140.99
(£119.99)
Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1) £114.99
(£97.86)
Silverstone RV02 Raven 2 Case - Black £113.98
(£97.00)
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £48.16
(£40.99)
Samsung SH-S223C/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £13.99
(£11.91)
Sub Total : £1,225.81
Shipping : £14.75
VAT : £217.10
Total : £1,457.66

Sell the extra copy of Mafia 2 for some added cash back.
 
a lot of Good advise all round there thank you guys.

I have definately decided to go Intel and in all honesty I7 is my choice.
Now its just taking all the advice on certains options etc and come down to my final build
Thank you guys reference just the I5 just personal choice has made me decide on the I7

I will definately go duel gfx cards just think i will hold off until bit more news on the ATI as im sure it would mean i can snatch up a better set for a lower price.

I must admit im reallt impressed with all the information you guys have given ( even through the heated DEBATES ) lol ..
 
There will only be two new ATI cards this year I believe and they will be high end and probably premium priced. I doubt those will have much of an effect on Nvidias current pricing to be honest as they are already aggressively competing with ATI on price and surely canna give no more, captain - especially on 470 and 480. 460s are such a sweet deal at the moment that I dont think you'd do yourself any real favours waiting for the ATI refresh. May as well buy buy buy!
 
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