There's no limit on jobs. I could quit my job today and just hand out leaflets to clean windows and do peoples gardens and I would've just created a job for myself. Anyone can start a business and create a job for themself. Yes the job market may move away from some sectors but there's always going to be people needed to do things, if there isn't then goods and services will be free/dirt cheap and we'll be living on universal income or just abolish money altogether
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There's no limit on jobs. I could quit my job today and just hand out leaflets to clean windows and do peoples gardens and I would've just created a job for myself. Anyone can start a business and create a job for themself. Yes the job market may move away from some sectors but there's always going to be people needed to do things, if there isn't then goods and services will be free/dirt cheap and we'll be living on universal income or just abolish money altogether
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I think we're moving towards that. I look forward to people being able to pursue productive careers (i.e. caring, teaching, nursery work, fire fighting, coastguard etc) without worrying about the poor pay.
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Ha, would be nice.
But i've got my doubts about the greedy 1% ever letting that become a reality. We were in theory supposed to be working less by now but if anything they want people working longer, harder and for less pay. They look at China and would love that here in the UK. Work 6 days a week for terrible pay and in terrible conditions.
It's sadly true. When automation takes all the jobs*, either things will go down the pan very quickly (where's the money to buy goods if no one has a job?) or there will need to be a serious look at alternative economic practices. I don't see everything becoming amazingly cheap or getting free money to buy stuff happening personally. Anyone seen the episode of Love Death and Robots called something like when the yogurt took over?
* I'll qualify that I don't actually believe it will be as total and as quick as some sensationalists predict
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Yes, and jobs are created by people. So the more people you have, naturally more jobs are created. We have 65m people and low unemployment, China has 1.4bn people and low unemployment. There isn't a finite amount of jobs.
This whole thing about the population needing to grow to grow the economy is completely wrong, because the the economy will also need to support more people, GDP per capita doesn't necessarily increase and living standards dont go up because you have more people.
Which careers are unproductive?
Manipulating numbers for financial gain. There's no production, no product, no increase in knowledge, just increase of notional value. The world is built on it and machines already to an incredible amout of it
Manipulating numbers for financial gain. There's no production, no product, no increase in knowledge, just increase of notional value. The world is built on it and machines already to an incredible amout of it
Investment banks create wealth by injecting capital through the buying of shares into companies who use it to expand their business to provide additional goods and services to the market, how does one manipulate numbers for financial gain?
Good luck earning a living that makes life worth living just randomly offering to clean windows and gardens
Good luck earning a living that makes life worth living just randomly offering to clean windows and gardens
I know window cleaners and gardeners who lead very comfortable lives.
Same, but they didn't just randomly do it on a whim
Good luck earning a living that makes life worth living just randomly offering to clean windows and gardens
That's just totally ignoring the point of my post. There are no limits on job creation, 5 years ago sat playing video games with a webcam on wouldn't have been a career, now people are millionaires from doing it. There are jobs that will be created in 5 years that haven't been thought of yet, just as there will be jobs that will disappear in 5 years. What happened to all the blacksmiths when we invented cars and no longer needed millions of horse shoes? We created the car industry that replaced them.
Highly area dependent and usually takes a long time to build up a reliable customer base...
It's doable but you rapidly reach saturation point in an area in terms of the number of gardeners, window cleaners, maids and dog walkers it can sustain (you need to something like 20 houses per day window cleaning from memory), and customers tend to have very little loyalty unless you really get to know them well (at least for window cleaners).
These days most of the sucessful window cleaners tend to be doing it with a proper business plan and access to several tens of thousands of pounds of equipment, as if you get a rod and pole system you can quickly do the more profitable (and reliable paying) offices and shop jobs.
Is that not only true for the initial public offering where the company sells shares and gets paid for those shares at that time.
After the shares belong to the public, what gain is there for the company if the said investment bank buys a quantity of them from the now external share owners. The tokens are now traded for the purpose of speculation without gain for the company.
Unless I'm mistaken.
Ok, so the shares themself become a commodity, the sale of that commodity will provide cash to the person selling, which can then be spent on goods and services or reinvested, creating jobs, wealth, and growing the economy
Only, that work ethic needs to be less Arbecht mein Frei and more that everyone deserves a good work and life balance with all their basic needs met.
When people can't work in most popular cities and be able to purchase a house, something has gone very wrong. Minimum wage barely even pays rent these days.
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It already hit that point a long time ago hence why certain jobs are only able to be filled by the transient migrant population who are able to live in shared housing. Others are reliant on fast dwindling council housing stock. I had colleagues in semi decent jobs where 70% of their combined income with their partners went on rent and rates.
Many thought I was mad commuting into London from East Anglia. They then changed their mind and were asking me how to relocate once rents really went up.
I know for a fact when the metropolitan police brought in a policy to ban recruitment from outside the M25 to better reflect the communities inside candidate quality dropped to an all time low (cue joke about what can be worse than absolute bottom). Corruption cases skyrocketed with record numbers of sackings due to officers selling PNC data and other information to gangs.
Average wage means some people aren't able to live, can you share some facts about that, maybe based on 2 people sharing? I guess central London is about the only place in the UK 2 people sharing a property on the average wage couldn't live?
LOL
Plenty of skilled working class and middle class move out of London to raise a family... and the upper middle class types from West London are perhaps less likely to join the police. So you're left with a much higher portion of the not so skilled working class and assorted chavs as the recruitment pool. I guess not too surprising if that cause problems.
Having said that there has been plenty of corruption previously too, albeit the people doing it were perhaps a bit smarter and the PNC data (and/or indeed other confidential information) being sold or given to mates/old colleagues working in private security/investigation firms.