Can't believe it, someone tried stealing our cars :(

hawker1986 said:
I think this is a fair point because all these people were talking about obviously live in a society where people dont get given a roof over their heads and food on the table and the people were talking about have been driven to breaking into someones house and stealing their propety to pay for food and clean water...oh no wait thats not right is it, that berk decided he would take advantage of a functioning member of society, intimidate them in their own home so he can have a laugh or get money for drugs.

Good times, our soft system doesnt really seem to be working all that well with its rehabilitation.

Hawker
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We don't have a soft system at all, we focus much harder on punishment and jail time than other countries and have a higher crime rate and less social cohesion as a result.

Countless people struggle to put food on the table every day, let alone have a roof over their head.

You point at our society and say "look being soft doesn't work!" when in reality, we are being incredibly hard in comparison and suffer for it.
 
hurfdurf said:
We don't have a soft system at all, we focus much harder on punishment and jail time than other countries and have a higher crime rate and less social cohesion as a result.

Countless people struggle to put food on the table every day, let alone have a roof over their head.

You point at our society and say "look being soft doesn't work!" when in reality, we are being incredibly hard in comparison and suffer for it.
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Really and what excuse is there for not being able to have roof over your head and food on your table in this country??? Given that in this country the state will support you if you are unable to support yourself.
 
hawker1986 said:
Really and what excuse is there for not being able to have roof over your head and food on your table in this country??? Given that in this country the state will support you if you are unable to support yourself.
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Mental illness, lack of priority, no family, lack of affordable social housing in the area you live in, being an illegal immigrant, being a trafficked sex worker, having a completely debilitating addiction to drugs or alcohol, just being released from prison....

I could go on and on and you should count yourself lucky you are so incredibly privileged enough that you havnt ever even considered finding yourself in these circumstances or that if you had you live in a fantasy land where the state will give you and everyone a free house and food and no one slips through the net should something terrible happen.

Ignorant privilege is a blight and part of why papers like the Daily Mail sell so much. "Well I'm not homeless and I grew up poor!!" *went to school, had parents who cared slightly about them*
 
hurfdurf said:
Mental illness, lack of priority, no family, lack of affordable social housing in the area you live in, being an illegal immigrant, being a trafficked sex worker, having a completely debilitating addiction to drugs or alcohol, just being released from prison....

I could go on and on and you should count yourself lucky you are so incredibly privileged enough that you havnt ever even considered finding yourself in these circumstances or that if you had you live in a fantasy land where the state will give you and everyone a free house and food and no one slips through the net should something terrible happen.

Ignorant privilege is a blight and part of why papers like the Daily Mail sell so much. "Well I'm not homeless and I grew up poor!!" *went to school, had parents who cared slightly about them*
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I will quite happily grant you that I am priveliged and I will be the first person to admit it, but equally I see people of the above mentioned groups on a more or less daily basis, I am well aware of the services available to them. None of those groups need be without a home or food in our country assuming they make the choice to ask for it. Granted the services might not be as good as they should be in an ideal world, but there is no ideal world. People dont break into peoples houses or mug people for bread and water. They do it because they believe their rights to joy ride/do illegal drugs/own something etc etc outweight the rights of the person who they are taking from. That is the fundamental problem with these people and that is the blight on our society - a perceived right to things youve not earned, and a lack of respect for others. Of the groups you mentioned people with mental health issues are the only ones with any excuse for that sort of behaviour. I dont deny life is difficult for lots of people but everyone should be accountable for the choices they make. I dont deny people need rehabilitation when they have done these things to make the functional members of society, infact I am very pro this idea, but that should be done in prison while they complete a sentence of punishment appropriate to the cime they commited, and in my opinion that punishment should be hard, it should motivate them not to go back to prison and show them they have done something wrong. Not allow them to catch Corrie or watch Sky Sports just like they would at home.

Hawker
 
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