Captain America

not me, was the trailer at the end any good? i couldn't wait to get out.

now i like my super hero movies, esp my marvel comic ones but I just didn't gel with this.

infact i found the whole lets hear it for captain america moments more cringeworthy than the peter parker dancing emo scene from spiderman 3 and unfortunately there were lots in this movie.

i actually prefered x-men wolverine origins to this :( bad times

so overall, i enjoyed it and would give it a solid 6 out of 10
 
Being dragged to this in a minute. My opinion of all these Marvel films (as an occasional peruser of the comics) of the last few years has been very much 'meh', as they're all much of a muchness, play it safe, Hollywood-filler, to me.

Doubt this will be any different. If this is as bad as Wolverine... well, I hope not.
 
Klo said:
I enjoyed it. Wasn't so keen on the way Hugo died, seem a bit anticlimactic really, but it was quite fun :)
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Will cover this at the end of the post. Right, this wasn't as bad as Wolverine and was fairly competent. HOWEVER, once again with all these Marvel films, they just fly through the origin, including how scrawny Steve Rogers learns martial arts overnight and gains incredible combat experience, the characters themselves are entirely forgettable, the dialogue/plot by the numbers ("I had a date" = epic fail, you'd think he'd have asked about her...), and probably my worst gripe, was that the cinematography was awful and a lot of times I felt like I was watching a TV director's attempt at a movie. I feel like it's been ages since I saw a proper action film that featured awesome cinematography and choreography. Lost art etc etc.



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Blatantly obvious he didn't die, and was transported up and away, no doubt to return in the Avengers film, as they need more than just one paper thing 'I just wanna rule the world!' bad guy.
 
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I get lost sometimes in films.
Right at the beginning they go in a spaceship (well the plane he crashed in at the end) and find Captain America frozen and then the story goes back 70 years?
Oh and that guy with the moustache is Daddy Stark out of Iron Man?
 
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Yes and yes. I like it, but I always think these films are ok at the least, even thought Green Lantern wasn't too bad although did prefer this.

Some parts felt rushed (the montage of fights) but overall apart from Hugo Weaving not having a reason to kill everyone except he wanted to I enjoyed. They didn't rush to get him in the Cap America costume and built up his character first and also found the Cap selling propoganda quite amusing as well as the ties to the first comic book issue.
 
Wife and I went to see this this evening, both of us enjoyed it, it's a comic book marvel film so wasn't expecting anything highbrow. Loved the WWII alternative tech, good effects, and basically enjoyable action flick. Now looking forward to the avengers.
 
Awful, truly awful having finally watched it. It "almost" felt like a real film up to the point he gets transformed, then it becomes a joke tv movie almost in a second. Though the hilarious repeating background as they drive to the place the lab is was quite funny. As a side note, my brother lives just round the corner from where they filmed in Manchester and I was up for a couple weeks at the same time, saw the film set/fake shop fronts they had up and the nice old cars sitting around the place.

Anyway, from then on it was laughable, and as someone said it had that Tv feel to a lot of the action, as they were running in corridoors in the base it looked awful that slightly to fast framerate feel which just makes it feel pathetically cheap and stupid.

The one attack with lots of stupid cliched rubbish bits, followed by lots of hey, we've just blown this place up, just for the bad guy to show up to see the destroyed factory with the American's no where in site.

The "show tunes" version of captain america took up about 10 minutes more than it needed to and the end.

I have to crash the plane, otherwise its going to go to New York............. but I have full control of it which is what is letting me crash it, and it has to crash not "land" because thats the only thing that makes sense. Not sure what was going on in all honesty but, wasn't it the small planes inside the big plan that were bombs of some kind and not the big thing itself, in which case who the hell cares where it is?

The stark thing was hilariously dumb, the testing the new glowy blue stuff "I think its probably harmless" despite having gotten the clip......... at the same time the POW's turned up with tanks, miniguns, rifle versions of blue glowy weapons which clearly everyone would have known how awesome the weapons were.

Spidey 3, Wolverine and this are by far the worst films, the action wasn't even good fun superhero action, there was really nothing "super" about the fighting at all.
 
Thought the same about the crashing the plane thing - if the controls were free, why did it require totaling?

Otherwise I thought it was a really good film, and think the comments above are a bit harsh ^^
 
Well in all fairness, nowhere in the film has Cap received any pilot training. While regular landing may have been a sounder solution, chances are he simply didn't know how to land a thing that size.
 
Cat_In_Pyjamas said:
Well in all fairness, nowhere in the film has Cap received any pilot training. While regular landing may have been a sounder solution, chances are he simply didn't know how to land a thing that size.
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Common sense would dictate that nose first into the ground wouldn't be the first choice ....

I thought it was ok, maybe a 5 out of 10. I was just trying to figure out throughout the film how he is so special? So hes bulked up, stronger, faster and with a special shield. How does that make him a superhero.

Iron man, suit.
Green Lanter - ring
Hulk - hulkiness
Spiderman - speed and agility coupled with webs and strength.
Superman... etc

Captain america - man + 1/2 but still easy to kill?
 
I quite liked the film,

I missed them seeing the american shield in the crashed plane, I assumed that it was a space ship and thats how they managed to get a mish-mash of old tech and high tech....

was disipointed when I realised it was a scene from the future...
 
Spiderman - speed and agility coupled with webs and strength
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Substitute webs for shield, and Captain America is the same thing.

We know he's strong for obvious reasons. We know hes fast, he chases after a car thats trying to get away from him, and does a running jump to land ontop of it. He also manages to out-swim a submersible vehicle.
 
Cat_In_Pyjamas said:
Well in all fairness, nowhere in the film has Cap received any pilot training. While regular landing may have been a sounder solution, chances are he simply didn't know how to land a thing that size.
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As Fez said, I don't know how to fly a plane, but I also wouldn't dive nose first into the ground, also don't forget she said, circle around for a bit while we come up with a plan. He says, can't do that its heading for New York, have to stop it........ but he's in full control of the plane, so there is no reason he can't circle around for a bit.

The biggest issue isn't the crashing itself, its the absolute and utter contradiction that, he has full control of the plane and is able to direct and crash it at will, but he HAS to do this otherwise the plane will go to New York and, I assume blow up....... thats ignoring the fact that, its not actually a bomb. It wasn't ever made clear I don't think but the smaller planes were "bombs" to go to various cities to blow up, and then yet again, why if theres a small plane with a super powerful blue glowy type bomb, and he's launching these little planes from the other side of the globe(iirc the plane is somewhere over the North Sea after he's back on board the plane, and it was the New York mini plane that was released earlier than that?

So who sends a nuke to New York, then flies right there afterwards?

The whole thing was complete nonsense, and so simple to fix. Make it clear the plane is a bomb, keep it stuck on autopilot and he can't stop it going to New York, don't take control of the plane to crash it, go use his strength to brake something, cut the fuel lines or otherwise cause it to go down. He either has control of the plane in this situation or he doesn't...... he DID have full control of the plane, so the scary autopilot taking it to New York was, completely irrelevant.
 
MooMoo444 said:
Substitute webs for shield, and Captain America is the same thing.

We know he's strong for obvious reasons. We know hes fast, he chases after a car thats trying to get away from him, and does a running jump to land ontop of it. He also manages to out-swim a submersible vehicle.
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That didn't come across at all in the film. All I saw was a beefed up guy who was a bit stronger and faster than normal with a shield. He didn't look anywhere near as fast as spiderman and spiderman doesn't take on small armies almost head on with a pistol and shield with guys firing automatic and energy weapons at him. I am not talking running the 100m, I am talking sheer reaction times and reflexes.

Was all just really dodgy in my eyes with way too many stupid stupid plot holes. The crash at the end was just taking the pee.

It wasn't so much a case of "suspend your disbelief" as "what would be an unnecessarily heroic thing to end our film with that a 5 year old might not feel was idiotic".
 
They showed very little in the base fighting with Captain America, he just kind of barged a few people and then they showed him on the monitors doing the same thing, while the other guys were being shot by fast firing glowy blue weapons, and guy got in the tank and blew holes in everything but CA just smacks a few people.

There wasn't a single semi epic fight, no one really fired on him at any stage in the first main attack. Later on a flamethrower dude fires at him, and just stands there for a while as CA stands behind a doorway, its all pretty lame. The train thing was beyond ridiculous aswell, a bunch of normal people, and CA himself, is one of his powers having the ability to land on a fast moving metalic train in the cold/wet or icy weather and none of them slipped off. All mental, the trap consisted of barely 5-6 armed guys, despite CA taking on entire bases of people, and thankfully they left lots of stuff to duck behind on the train. Likewise, its a freaking trap, was there any reason the scientist guy actually had to BE on the train rather than just SAY he was on the train.

Up to him getting powers, felt passable, the build up to a good film possible, from the second he got his "powers", it was plot holes, bad acting, awful action and pure stupidity to the end.
 
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