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Since when do highstreet stores accept PC game returns once seals been broken and game key used?
certain high st game selling chain to stop selling pc games :(
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Since when do highstreet stores accept PC game returns once seals been broken and game key used?
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Yeah but we dont know how many purchases are made via steam. Consoles win high street but no doubt pc nails consoles when it comes to digital distribution of games
get real, a highstreet shop would take a single look at it, see you've opened the shrink-wrap or plastic cover over the case and say "it's been opened, we can't give refunds on opened PC games, Store Policy"
i'd love to see you try though.
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You got a response to the fact that what you have said is a load of tripe?
PC games have very rarely been refundable due to serial numbers etc. 6 quid for BFBC2 is a bargain, I honestly think you are either a die hard Call of Duty fanboy. Or you simply havent given it a chance.
Sounds like a great way to turn a good business model into a failing one.
No actually hes right. If you end up buying a game based on biaised reviews and its full of bugs etc Sure there might be a patch in 2 months or so but you end up with a broken ish game that for you is not the ****** experience ****** u ordered. Because these days u dont own games u just have paid for permission to experience it.
When you buy things online (not digital media) DSR applies. This is to give the customer the chance to try the product on e.g. clothes.
why should we forced to pay for things we dont want? imo consumer laws need to be updated more to reflect the digital age we are in.
It would be a disaster in UK for PC gaming if retail games go away:
1: Virgin Media have stated on their forums they have a network wide issue which will not be fixed until mid March 2011 & until then it will not be possible to get superfast broadband speeds
2: BT are having major issues due to over capacity so their network speeds are poor as well for many you can only get 6Mb. BT are also throttling to 2Mb in the evenings right now for many users as they cannot cope with the traffic
Only a lucky few have superfast UK broadband speed so PC gamers need the retailors to continue to sell PC games.
Lets suppose what you say is true and that people are stuck on 2Mbit, you can still bag around 20GB a day at that speed, so no game should take more than a day to download.
In fact I'd say for the majority of people if a game goes in the Steam sales at 6pm you can get it quicker than you would in the shops, realistically you are talking 10am (a good 16hrs away) minimum before you could buy, take home and install a game from the high street.
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To be honest it doesnt bother me remotely.
If I buy something that doesnt live up to what I wanted, poop happens. I'll avoid similar titles or games from the same developer in future.
If Steam started giving refunds for people just not liking what they've bought, it would struggle to make money because of people taking the mick, not to mention the impracticalities of it due to activated accounts and keys with systems it has no control over.
If your that concerned over liking a game or not, wait and research it before hand rather than buying it on a whim and whining afterward. Not liking something you've bought yourself should never be grounds for a complete refund. Why should Steam foot the bill for you changing your mind?
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Well could easily make it that you get 2 or 3 days since install to decide if you wanted to keep the digital version of the game. If you click YES then its all good you get access. If you click no then its uninstalled. Could all be done on steam but not all digital distributors sing from the same hymn sheet of course.... But we are in an age where the technology is easily possible.
Doesnt bother me as i have easily enough money if i want a particular game (dont have enough time is the problem)
You have to remember some of us can remember a time when
a) Patches for games didnt exist. The game was finished and could be played with minimal bugs. You didnt buy a game to discover main features missing and that you were beta testing the game...
in fact bugs were like easter eggs and were great fun!!
b) DLC didnt exist.
c) You could easily sell, swap games with m8s no probs. Why? because you owned it and just passed them the tape/disc
d) none of this limited activations, online security restrictions in games.
Nowadays there is only so much gaming cake to go around so naturally games publishers keep wanting a bigger slice...that means less for the consumer. They will keep on squeezing....
They want gamers to be more invested in what they offer ..requiring sign ups to online accounts to access their games for tech support or patches or mp.
its amazing games companies in the old days made any profit at all ehh....
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was in a branch of the above game selling shop today and noticed they pc titles are all reduced (inc new releases and there was only about half a shelf of them)
looks like its steam or mail order only from now on
A few of the highstreet retailers also allow you to buy & download pc titles via their websites.
Their prices are still a bit heavy though regardless.
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pc gaming is unoriginal at the moment full of console ports and makes console gaming worth looking at.
cant believe i just said that after all these years of gaming on the pc. make me sad that we arnt catered for in the way te pc deserves.
the are original ideas out there for good games but nobody wants to chance it .
on the steam do it all they would end up highering prices and screwing you over .
cant believe i just said that after all these years of gaming on the pc. make me sad that we arnt catered for in the way te pc deserves.
the are original ideas out there for good games but nobody wants to chance it .
on the steam do it all they would end up highering prices and screwing you over .
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I purchased kane & Lynch 2, mafia2 at game station
I installed then using steam as they are steam activated.
Didn't like the games so went to shop.... said they didn't work and got a full refund.
Geamestation here don't sell wrapped games.
Am actually enjoying mafia 2 now
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I just dont get how he can say BFBC2 is a bad game, especially for £6.XX.
It's not bad, it's quite good in fact. I think he is a bit butt hurt from being fragged left, right and centre...
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Easy?
I'm not sure if you've actually thought it through, but whilst I don't know the specifics of how Steam does it's authentication of games, I'd be willing to bet that a system wide change to how that and licencing is done is no easy thing at all...I can see a number of problems with your "easy" idea as well.
What's to stop people "buying" a game, completing it, then demanding a refund because it's no good? I finished MoH in under four hours, and a lot of games could be done in under "2 or 3 days".
What about all the games that have more than Steam as authentication? Many games have keys that need to be redeemed elsewhere. Steam would have to make a loss on these games (they still buy licences for games from publishers... they don't just print them out of thin air).
And so on. It's far from "easy" when you actually consider it imo.
It's just the tightness in you that wants to screw people over because of your indecisiveness then?
I fail to see how any of this bears anything toward the point in question. None of these should entitle you to a full refund.
Steam don't set the prices, publishers do. When the publishes realise they have no where else to sell, I doubt they'll put the prices up.
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er no a high street shop would laugh at you and tell you to GTFO.
Especially as you've made the game worthless by registering it.
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lol @ discs.
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Out of sight out of mind, thats the real problem with digital download. Shops keep PC gaming in sight and draws new people into it.
"lol @ discs"
If steam goes out of business or changes its business plan, these things do happen. It will be lol all round at digital download.
"lol @ discs"
If steam goes out of business or changes its business plan, these things do happen. It will be lol all round at digital download.
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