Child Abuse

Kroegen · 10 May 2006 at 22:19

I have been reading http://www.phoenixsurvivors.com/ its all about child abuse and stories.

Its soo upsetting to read what happens in this world

I just wanted to see thoughts on this.

locutus12 · 10 May 2006 at 22:32

heres my take on it, an abused child often grows up to be a failure as an adult finding that his past keeps him locked in his present and prevents him from getting to his future. doomed to spend the rest of his days thinking about all he could have been. the end.

Davey_Pitch · 10 May 2006 at 22:51

locutus12 said:
heres my take on it, an abused child often grows up to be a failure as an adult finding that his past keeps him locked in his present and prevents him from getting to his future. doomed to spend the rest of his days thinking about all he could have been. the end.

And you know this how exactly? State your source.

nikebee · 10 May 2006 at 22:55

locutus12 said:
heres my take on it, an abused child often grows up to be a failure as an adult finding that his past keeps him locked in his present and prevents him from getting to his future. doomed to spend the rest of his days thinking about all he could have been. the end.

although that same child may just have more drive to make something out of their life because of the past that they have endured... giving them more passion/enthusiasm to reach a goal in their life.

panthro · 10 May 2006 at 23:10

Teri Hatcher is a good example of being successful after being abused as a child. Child abuse is probably the biggest crime imo.

locutus12 · 10 May 2006 at 23:23

Davey_Pitch said:
And you know this how exactly? State your source.

im my source if you catch my drift

nikebee said:
although that same child may just have more drive to make something out of their life because of the past that they have endured... giving them more passion/enthusiasm to reach a goal in their life.

its a beautiful thought, and an inspiration when someone manages this. but sadly not the case for most

Davey_Pitch · 10 May 2006 at 23:27

locutus12 said:
im my source if you catch my drift

I'd guessed as much, and I'm sorry to hear that

Have you spoken to anyone about it, a therapist of any kind?

zain · 10 May 2006 at 23:27

locutus12 said:
heres my take on it, an abused child often grows up to be a failure as an adult finding that his past keeps him locked in his present and prevents him from getting to his future. doomed to spend the rest of his days thinking about all he could have been. the end.

Thats only one side of it though, there are many examples I can use but cba to.

nikebee said:
although that same child may just have more drive to make something out of their life because of the past that they have endured... giving them more passion/enthusiasm to reach a goal in their life.

Yup.

locutus12 said:
im my source if you catch my drift

its a beautiful thought, but sadly not the case for most

True but once they recieve the correct help (and im not implying purely professional) it truely closes the door on that side and lets the person get on.

DailyGeek · 10 May 2006 at 23:30

locutus12 said:
heres my take on it, an abused child often grows up to be a failure as an adult finding that his past keeps him locked in his present and prevents him from getting to his future. doomed to spend the rest of his days thinking about all he could have been. the end.

Of those victims I have spoken with, I'd say thats a fair way of summing a majority up unfortunatly.

locutus12 · 10 May 2006 at 23:31

Davey_Pitch said:
I'd guessed as much, and I'm sorry to hear that Have you spoken to anyone about it, a therapist of any kind?

afraid the best ive ever been able to get is a string of councillors, the problem with a counciller is that they wont feed back to you, they cant explain to me why my head tells me that it was my fault even though it wasnt. and quite frankly im too poor for a proper therapist / phsychiatrist and the doctors never seem to be able to offer me anything other than a pack of anti depressants (which i refuse) and yet oh joy of joy... another councillor.. To be honest, its pretty much ruined my life so far.

To simply be alive is not to live.

DailyGeek · 10 May 2006 at 23:33

locutus12 said:
afraid the best ive ever been able to get is a string of councillors, the problem with a counciller is that they wont feed back to you, they cant explain to me why my head tells me that it was my fault even though it wasnt. and quite frankly im too poor for a proper therapist / phsychiatrist and the doctors never seem to be able to offer me anything other than a pack of anti depressants (which i refuse) and yet oh joy of joy... another councillor.. To be honest, its pretty much ruined my life so far.

If you ever need to chat about things mate - to offload or anything, my msn is in trust.

Davey_Pitch · 10 May 2006 at 23:37

locutus12 said:
afraid the best ive ever been able to get is a string of councillors, the problem with a counciller is that they wont feed back to you, they cant explain to me why my head tells me that it was my fault even though it wasnt. and quite frankly im too poor for a proper therapist / phsychiatrist and the doctors never seem to be able to offer me anything other than a pack of anti depressants (which i refuse) and yet oh joy of joy... another councillor.. To be honest, its pretty much ruined my life so far.

To simply be alive is not to live.

I'm sorry that things haven't worked out well for you. I can't say I know how you feel, but a friend of mine suffered abuse as a child (though I use that term loosely, it wasn't abuse in the standard sense of the word), and I've been to counselling sessions with her. If you're lucky enough to get a good one they can make a difference.

My ears are open any time you want to chat mate, drop me a line any time.

locutus12 · 10 May 2006 at 23:37

DailyGeek said:
If you ever need to chat about things mate - to offload or anything, my msn is in trust.

Davey_Pitch said:
My ears are open any time you want to chat mate, drop me a line any time.

bless you both

you know, i may at times have run ins with this places policys, but as for the people, when it comes to stuff like this i probably couldnt ask for a better "virtual" bunch

DailyGeek · 10 May 2006 at 23:41

locutus12 said:
bless you both you know, i may at times have run ins with this places policys, but as for the people, when it comes to stuff like this i probably couldnt ask for a better "virtual" bunch

No problem at all

benneh · 10 May 2006 at 23:42

I havent experienced it personall, but i've been very very close to 2 people who have. And i dunno, i just think that it builds a firm brick wall in the mind. And i really don't see any-way of geting over it. It effects every situation every day. I don't want to start the whole keyboard warrior thing, but bad things need to happen to these people. We all have urges, and sometimes they can be a bit wierd (not that i've ever had the urge to sleep with a minor!) but things like child sex offenses have wild repercussion, and for someone to sentence a human being to a life of anguish and social alienation for the sake of a cheap thrill. That's just un-forgivable.

Darkwave · 10 May 2006 at 23:44

locutus12 said:
bless you both you know, i may at times have run ins with this places policys, but as for the people, when it comes to stuff like this i probably couldnt ask for a better "virtual" bunch

You're a very decent bloke from what I have seen, locutus12, and as a fellow "screw up" I too would be glad to offer an ear if you ever need one.

el_dazza · 10 May 2006 at 23:54

Exsomnis said:
I too would be glad to offer an ear if you ever need one.

I'm always around to talk to as well mate. You'd be welcome to chat to me on msn or whatever, dazzosheps @ hotmail.com if you feel the need to talk to someone, i'm around until stupid o clock usually

locutus12 · 11 May 2006 at 00:00

benneh said:
We all have urges, and sometimes they can be a bit wierd

on my net travels i found a small piece of clarity in answer to that comment that went something like "to have impulses of any nature is what it is to be an animal, to know what impulses to act or not to act on is what it is to be human"

morality and ethics, its the only thing that makes us different from animals, and they are 2 of the greatest gifts we have.

cleanbluesky · 11 May 2006 at 00:06

locutus12 said:
afraid the best ive ever been able to get is a string of councillors, the problem with a counciller is that they wont feed back to you, they cant explain to me why my head tells me that it was my fault even though it wasnt. and quite frankly im too poor for a proper therapist / phsychiatrist and the doctors never seem to be able to offer me anything other than a pack of anti depressants (which i refuse) and yet oh joy of joy... another councillor.. To be honest, its pretty much ruined my life so far.

To simply be alive is not to live.

Perhaps referral to a GP in order to see a psychotherapist... counselling is sometimes like a passive cut-down service compared to psychotherapy...

You may be able to go to a student institution for discounted rates... there are a few good clinics in London if you live there

cleanbluesky · 11 May 2006 at 00:10

locutus12 said:
heres my take on it, an abused child often grows up to be a failure as an adult finding that his past keeps him locked in his present and prevents him from getting to his future. doomed to spend the rest of his days thinking about all he could have been. the end.

this pattern of thought/behaviour can be broken of course...