I find it so annoying and stupid of Intel to produce chips and then use cheap bad thermal paste... If they just did it properly in the first place then de-liding wouldn't be needed. I cant imagine it would cost them much more to use some good thermal paste themselves!
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Coffee lake delid questions
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sandy bridge was the last desktop chips intel soldered, sandy bridge was stupidly overpowered and many think if intel have known how over power and have bad AMD was about to do then intel would have gimped sandy bridge in some way...
and from that day on intel used cheap thermal paste on all desktop CPU's do you think thats a coincidence.
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We can hope that Intel solders the 9th gen. They must be looking at all these complaints. They spend literally billions in R&D, for their products to then be 'ruined' by badly applied low quality TIM.
It makes no sense, how much money could they really be saving to justify this?
The make a 5% increase with each gen, and ppl go crazy to buy them, intel are very happy.
The Tim only affects the k chips and as intel will tell you overclocking is luck of the draw.
Also in intel save 5p per chip on the solder and 5p on the soldering process and 5p on the gold that need to be on the IHS for the solder to stick. That's 15p per chip and that sell will over 500,000 chip I would think if not more.
Just had a Google last year intel sold over 400,000,000 units X 15p
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The Tim only affects the k chips and as intel will tell you overclocking is luck of the draw.
Also in intel save 5p per chip on the solder and 5p on the soldering process and 5p on the gold that need to be on the IHS for the solder to stick. That's 15p per chip and that sell will over 500,000 chip I would think if not more.
Just had a Google last year intel sold over 400,000,000 units X 15p
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But, as I'm sure you know they soldered the Sandybridge CPUs which were fantastic overclockers. That solder is still holding up in many people's systems after 5+ years of heavy overclocking. It can't be a longevity issue with their soldering method.
And I'm ofcourse only talking about it being an issue on K CPUs, this is the overclockers forums after all. To off-set the cost of soldering I'm sure they could just charge etra per unlocked CPU, which they seem to do anyway each generation...
Why would intel want a CPU to last 5 year. You wouldn't buy a new one
Just had a Google last year intel sold over 400,000,000 units X 15p
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They don't sell 400m unlocked CPUs though? I'm say soldering for Unlocked.
It could also help with their PR, as AMD is currently seen as the more consumer friendly brand by allowing overclocking on budget B350 boards and having soldered CPUs.
This contrasts with the very wide-ranging sentiment that Intel are just too greedy now. It may cost some, but will help their image and could claw back consumer CPU market share, especially as we've seen how much bigger Ryzen's share is now. Mindfactory released their CPU sales figures about this, which didn't look good for Intel.
Intel even released Coffee-Lake early (before adequate stock) in an attempt to interrupt these Ryzen sales. They now actually need to compete again, and soldering unlocked CPUs seems like a good option.
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I agree with you intel are making a mock of themselves in my eyes. Amd have been clever and I think with ryzen2 or plus if they make a good step forward they could be pushing intel hard and take a big chunk of the market from them.
My next CPU will be AMD
My next CPU will be AMD
Hey guys, 8700k arriving tomorrow fingers crossed.
Gonna delid with a Stanley and use liquid metal. Thermal grizzly the best option? Heard cool laboratories is similar performance and easier to apply?
Also I've decided I won't bother covering the contacts with nail varnish, but I was planning to reseal the ihs with some glue on the corners - any recommendations which to use?
Gonna delid with a Stanley and use liquid metal. Thermal grizzly the best option? Heard cool laboratories is similar performance and easier to apply?
Also I've decided I won't bother covering the contacts with nail varnish, but I was planning to reseal the ihs with some glue on the corners - any recommendations which to use?
if you dont use nail varnish dont use ANY metal based thermal material so NO! liquid metal. clear nail varnish costs 99p..
also to refit the IHS use silicone gasket. halfords sell the stuff for £2 in block and yes a blob on each corner is the way to do it. dont use glue in case it affects the PCB is some way
Is nail varnish safe at those temps? Just a little visible blob over the contacts? I figured the contacts were a decent distance from the die but if there's a safe way to seal the contacts I guess there's no harm. I read something about liquid electrical tape.
Also the silicon stuff what's the exact name please?
there is a normally line of resisters in front of the die(cores) that what you need to cover with the nail varnish. however i just had a google and i dont think all coffee lake CPU's have them. you will have to see when you pop the lid.
on a 4770k that look like this
you would just paint the chips and job done. altho you dont need metal unless you temps are stupid, i used MX5 and got a 8c drop to 58c(Max) when gaming 4790k @ 4.8Ghz
on a 4770k that look like this
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