Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars coming to X360

bingham67 · 16 Nov 2006 at 17:25

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=70075

For the fans of the game here you can now enjoy the new game coming next year on your 360.

I used to like the original but sort of went off it ill give the new version a try anyway.

Kreeeee · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:08

bingham67 · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:11

Kreeeee said:
It will be naff on a joypad.

Ye i prefer to play these game on PC but just bringing the news.

Manlove is my forte · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:12

Kreeeee said:
It will be naff on a joypad.

It depends if the Developers (EA I guess

) take the time to develop the game interface with the controler in mind.

IMO no RTS has managed to use the gamepad perfectly yet, but some games have made a good effort, I'm not optimistic.

Kainz · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:15

Bloody EA. Knowing them we'll have to purchase the mammoth tank and orca off the marketplace :rolleyes:

Chrisss · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:19

A keyboard/mouse is obviously much better for RTS's, but EA did a pretty good job with the LOTR RTS game, wasn't perfect but was very good.

Weebull · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:20

Kronologic said:
It depends if the Developers (EA I guess ) take the time to develop the game interface with the controler in mind.

IMO no RTS has managed to use the gamepad perfectly yet, but some games have made a good effort, I'm not optimistic.

Could it actually be possible for an RTS to use a gamepad all that well though? I mean, the very nature of how RTS game work is very tailored towards a mouse/keyboard combination, because that's the system it was originally designed for. Much like FPS games, you might get good games of that genre on the consoles, but control system will still be inferior to that of a PC.

Chrisss · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:23

Also...no word on a PS3 version?

Kreeeee · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:27

Manlove is my forte · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:27

Weebull said:
Could it actually be possible for an RTS to use a gamepad all that well though? I mean, the very nature of how RTS game work is very tailored towards a mouse/keyboard combination, because that's the system it was originally designed for. Much like FPS games, you might get good games of that genre on the consoles, but control system will still be inferior to that of a PC.

as long as they make it so that the gamer does not get frustrated trying to do something then they will have succeeded.

You are right a mouse will make a lot of things eaiser (percise). But imo it is the keyboard that was more important in RTS games. With the number of keys available you could perform certian tasks with the keyboard whilst doing others with the mouse.

sc(+)pe · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:35

I completed the Original C&C on playstation with the control pad. While easily doable (is that a word :confused:

) I could imagine multiplayer over live with nothing more than a control pad would be very hard. Then again maybe it would make that bit better as i tend to find RTS games are won and lost way to fast online now. I've had WoW duels last longer than some C&C Generals games.

sanofi · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:40

I'm sure its possible, just look at BFME 2 but it just wouldn't feel right to me.

sanofi · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:49

double post

da_mic_1530 · 16 Nov 2006 at 18:53

i heard lord of the rings on the 360 had a good control system

looking foward to this

Weebull · 16 Nov 2006 at 19:07

I'm not saying RTS games aren't "doable" on a console, because obviously they can be. I just wonder whether it's actually possible to create a console RTS game that would have a responsive enough control method to satisfy the best players. Could it be easily done, or would it requite completely changing how RTS games work on consoles, so it would be almost as impossble to port that game back onto the PC?

Kronologic said:
as long as they make it so that the gamer does not get frustrated trying to do something then they will have succeeded.

You are right a mouse will make a lot of things eaiser (percise). But imo it is the keyboard that was more important in RTS games. With the number of keys available you could perform certian tasks with the keyboard whilst doing others with the mouse.

It's more the exact combination of keyboard and mouse that works so well for RTS games. The keyboard defines what actions you wish to perform, while the mouse defines exactly where you want it to happen. With a control pad you're limited by both accuracy in positioning (by using a stick instead of a mouse) and in actions (by having far less buttons to use). I'm just not sure if there's any easy way to overcome that.

In terms of the buttons, perhaps a combination system would be better, whereby the face buttons would perform differently depending on what shoulder buttons you have pressed down, or something.

The Running Man · 16 Nov 2006 at 19:14

sc(+)pe said:
I completed the Original C&C on playstation with the control pad. While easily doable (is that a word ) I could imagine multiplayer over live with nothing more than a control pad would be very hard. Then again maybe it would make that bit better as i tend to find RTS games are won and lost way to fast online now. I've had WoW duels last longer than some C&C Generals games.

its true - the original ps worked "okay" with C&C, but i presume this woill be a more complex game and may not be as easy to play with a pad.

does anyone know if this game is any good yet?

dannyjo22 · 16 Nov 2006 at 19:49

da_mic_1530 said:
i heard lord of the rings on the 360 had a good control system

looking foward to this

It was better but still **** poor. Became a chore to do stuff quickly that you do without thinking with a KB and mouse.

fergie666 · 16 Nov 2006 at 19:53

i will definately be buying this one

thats the only game i miss from selling my gaming pc

hope they do a good job with the controls though :/