Con Lake Con firmed [Warning: AdoredTV]

gavinh87 · 10 Jan 2018 at 02:51

jigger said:
No, Ryzen running an all clock setting lower than single max XFR pretty much stomps any equivalent Intel CPU into the dust.

I think I've already posted my own benchmarks showing that this isn't the case.
Must be fun living in a bubble.

jigger · 10 Jan 2018 at 02:56

gavinh87 said:
I think I've already posted my own benchmarks showing that this isn't the case.
Must be fun living in a bubble.

No, Ryzen is a processing monster. I've spent most of the day being amazed how much performance Ryzen offers compared to much more expensive Intel chips. You are 100% wrong.

gavinh87 · 10 Jan 2018 at 03:16

jigger said:
No, Ryzen is a processing monster. I've spent most of the day being amazed how much performance Ryzen offers compared to much more expensive Intel chips. You are 100% wrong.

It offers value for money yes but it isn't faster. Give it any avx instructions and it loses by a margin.

jigger · 10 Jan 2018 at 03:21

gavinh87 said:
It offers value for money yes but it isn't faster. Give it any avx instructions and it loses by a margin.

No. You wouldn't believe what I've got an 8 core Ryzen doing right now. If I tried this on one of my Intel system the desktop would be unresponsive and would probably fall over. I'm actually trying to stall this system and it's eating everything I can throw at it right now.

Your 5.1Ghz 8700K would be choked to the gills. This rig could not give a monkeys.

humbug · 10 Jan 2018 at 03:21

gavinh87 said:
It offers value for money yes but it isn't faster. Give it any avx instructions and it loses by a margin.

it loses by a margin

No it doesn't.... massive exaggeration, the 1800X looses out to the 8700K by about 2%

gavinh87 · 10 Jan 2018 at 03:50

jigger said:
No. You wouldn't believe what I've got an 8 core Ryzen doing right now. If I tried this on one of my Intel system the desktop would be unresponsive and would probably fall over. I'm actually trying to stall this system and it's eating everything I can throw at it right now.

Your 5.1Ghz 8700K would be choked to the gills. This rig could not give a monkeys.

Pick a benchmark where the 8700k chokes and the 1800x doesn't.
@humbug so the Intel is beating the "processing monster" not wrong am I?

humbug · 10 Jan 2018 at 03:54

gavinh87 said:
Pick a benchmark where the 8700k chokes and the 1800x doesn't.
@humbug so the Intel is beating the "processing monster" not wrong am I?

The problem is your hyperbolic language, its a couple of % when Overclocked vs overclocked and the same performance at stock.

That's Intel's 2018 £400 top of the line mainstream CPU, its not that impressive, Ryzen 2 will beat it in April and for less money.

hyperseven · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:03

humbug said:
The problem is your hyperbolic language, its a couple of % when Overclocked vs overclocked and the same performance at stock.

That's Intel's 2018 £400 top of the line mainstream CPU, its not that impressive, Ryzen 2 will beat it in April and for less money.

not £400 and psychic now are we :rolleyes:

Really do have a good dose of fanboyitis

gavinh87 · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:11

humbug said:
The problem is your hyperbolic language, its a couple of % when Overclocked vs overclocked and the same performance at stock.

That's Intel's 2018 £400 top of the line mainstream CPU, its not that impressive, Ryzen 2 will beat it in April and for less money.

I'm not the one calling ryzen a processing monster am I lol. Not claiming things like it can beat a 5.1ghz 8700k. I call out false claims, not make them.

humbug · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:13

hyperseven said:
not £400 and psychic now are we Really do have a good dose of fanboyitis

Why do you people always resort to the "fanboy" grenade, what are you 12?

humbug · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:16

gavinh87 said:
I'm not the one calling ryzen a processing monster am I lol. Not claiming things like it can beat a 5.1ghz 8700k. I call out false claims, not make them.

Ryzen has other capabilities that it excels at, so does the 8700K, they are different chips tuned diffrently, the point you made was that the 8700K beats Ryzen in AVX workloads, i just gave you an AVX workload and its doesn't.

Ryzen is also old news about to be replaced by younger - fitter - faster silicon.

hyperseven · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:16

humbug said:
Why do you people always resort to the "fanboy" grenade, what are you 12?

If the cap fits...still waiting for that spec sheet of that cooler.

Which CPU do you have as a matter of interest?

humbug · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:20

hyperseven said:
If the cap fits...still waiting for that spec sheet of that cooler.

Which CPU do you have as a matter of interest?

I'm off to bed :rolleyes:

hyperseven · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:26

humbug said:
I'm off to bed

no need to be rude, only asked a simple question :rolleyes:

gavinh87 · 10 Jan 2018 at 04:26

humbug said:
Ryzen has other capabilities that it excels at, so does the 8700K, they are different chips tuned diffrently, the point you made was that the 8700K beats Ryzen in AVX workloads, i just gave you an AVX workload and its doesn't.

Ryzen is also old news about to be replaced by younger - fitter - faster silicon.

You showed one. There are many other examples.

hyperseven said:
no need to be rude, only asked a simple question

You'll learn that the biggest AMD fan on here doesn't actually own AMD hardware. Which is brilliant in itself.

Phixsator · 10 Jan 2018 at 08:55

gavinh87 said:
You'll learn that the biggest AMD fan on here doesn't actually own AMD hardware. Which is brilliant in itself.

How is that comment constructive in anyway?

kaiserc · 10 Jan 2018 at 11:31

Just to prove the whole AdoredTV is NOT Biased.
Just look at the titles of all his tech vids Here
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdoredTV/

For those who are lazy here is a list

The MSI 1080 Ti Gaming X Review - The Only Card That Matters.
Poor Vega - [25:42]
Nvidia - Getting Away With (GPU) Murder
Volta and Vega - AMD Has a Mountain to Climb. - [22:13]
Tech Update - AMD beating Intel in CPU sales, 1070 Ti, i7 8700K benchmarked, Raja
The New Nvidia Titan Xp - Still Not the Ultimate. Period. - [08:15]
Vega Clarification - How bad is it? - [16:31]
VideoFallout: New Vega - [15:19]
The GPU War is Over + Win a Copy of Star Wars Battlefront! - [32:59]
Polaris Efficiency - Truth or Myth? - [18:45]

January Update - Vega reveal incoming. - [17:19]
History of Nvidia GeForce, Part 2 - The Way You Were Meant To Be Played - [24:28]
A History of Nvidia GeForce, Part 1 - Fierce Competition - [26:51]
Threadripper X399 Mobo Showdown! - Zenith vs Aorus vs Carbon - [16:09]
Something Wrong At Radeon - [27:58]
The RX Vega Liquid Edition Review - [20:32]
Unboxing RX Vega 64 Liquid - Reviewer's Edition - [04:08]
The Ryzen Threadripper 1950X and 1920X Review. - [26:11]
Unboxing Threadripper - Reviewer's Edition - [02:47]
RX Vega Unveiled - Specs, Prices and Performance. - [13:31]
Intel - Anti-Competitive, Anti-Consumer, Anti-Technology. - [34:51]
July Update - Vega RX, Threadripper vs Skylake-X, Nvidia Mind-Games - [14:41]
Epyc Wins, Intel Prepares To Fight Dirty. - [23:09]
Hello Vega! RX Makes its First Appearance. - [16:01]
Intel's Skylake-X - Review Roundup and Analysis - Part 2 - [15:00]
Intel's Skylake-X - Architecture and Review Roundup - Part 1 - [17:01]
You're beaten, Intel. - [23:02]
Prey Review and Benchmarks - GTX 1060 vs RX 580, i5 vs Ryzen. - [10:58]
Is Toms Hardware Biased towards Intel? - [19:39]
Stock Madness: AMD Shares Crater 25% In A Day. - [21:58]
(Tutorial) On Screen Display Stats - with Afterburner, Rivatuner and HWiNFO! - [18:24]
The RX 500 Series Review - Featuring MSI RX 580 Gaming X - [23:56]
Innovation vs Rebranding - [19:53]
The Ryzen R5 1600X and R5 1500X Review - A Game of Two Halves - [21:26]
Ryzen of the Tomb Raider - [21:31]
Benchmarks - what to trust? - [14:31]
The (Belated) Ryzen Review - R7 1800X and R7 1700 - AMD back in business. - [29:49]
Ryzen - The Tech Press Loses The Plot - [19:49]
The Ryzen Non-Review - [07:02]
It's been a bad week at Intel. - [14:01]
Ryzen Buildup - Speculating on Performance, Prices and Branding - [25:57]
Ryzen - A Refresher, Some Speculation and Market Analysis. - [16:53]
ReLive - Faster Than Shadowplay! Tutorial and Benchmarks. - [12:12]
Introducing AMD's Crimson Relive Edition! - [12:38]
Polaris Efficiency - Truth or Myth? - [18:45]
Thank You! - Win an AMD Radeon RX 480! - [01:09]
Channel Update - Pause...Break + Win an EverSpace game key on Steam! - [07:57]
Everything you always wanted to know about FreeSync... - [16:38]
A Strange Case of Missing FPS. - [18:10]
Zen - AMD's New CPU Architecture. - [13:30]
Polaris vs Tonga vs Tahiti at Same Clock Speed (via ComputerBase) - [09:45]
Nvidia's Pascal DPC Latency Investigated. - [14:31]
Building a Better Benchmark - for DX12 and Vulkan. - [16:01]
Nvidia Showdown! Pascal vs Maxwell at same clocks, same FLOPS - [12:11]
Nvidia's new Titan X revealed - 30% faster than GTX 1080, $1200 price. - [13:12]
Geforce GTX 1060 Review Roundup - [13:16]
DOOM Vulkan Benchmarks & Analysis - The Real RX 480 Stands Up - [16:47]
AMD's Jason Megit Interview - Polaris, DX12, Virtual Reality and multi GPU - [16:38]
Overclocking, Undervolting and Un-throttling The RX 480 - With Wattman! - [17:03]
Polaris RX 480 - Power Problems or PCI Exaggeration? - [07:46]
AMD RX 480 Review - The Consumer Champion + Ground Breakers Game Giveaway - [23:36]

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As you can see from that list of titles
- HE BASHES Everyone when its deserved.

Granted he may have slightly more AMD based material and that is down to not getting any samples to review from intel or nvidia (this would be common for any NEW youtube tech reviewer ), but At least he does his own research.

I'm really sick an tired of seeing people blinded by their Favourite brand and not opening their minds to a different point of view.
That's a mentality that will hinder any competition in this tech space that we all love, resulting in all of us paying more.
Nobody wants that

Jono8 · 10 Jan 2018 at 12:11

kaiserc said:
I'm really sick an tired of seeing people blinded by their Favourite brand and not opening their minds to a different point of view.
That's a mentality that will hinder any competition in this tech space that we all love, resulting in all of us paying more.
Nobody wants that

I had never even heard of him before or seen his videos. I completely disagree with him that anything about it is a "con" though. Simple as that.

kaiserc · 10 Jan 2018 at 12:57

Jono8 said:
I had never even heard of him before or seen his videos. I completely disagree with him that anything about it is a "con" though. Simple as that.[/QUOTE

How can you disagree or agree with him when you haven't even seen his videos?
Give the man a chance and watch it and then do your own research before you pass judgment.

Stanners · 10 Jan 2018 at 13:04

kaiserc said:
How can you disagree or agree with him when you haven't even seen his videos?
Give the man a chance and watch it and then do your own research before you pass judgment.

I am guessing in that he has never heard of him prior to viewing this review.