You say its rubbish but that is not strictly true. It runs the CPU as intel intended. It is able to meet the base clock and i'm assuming the single core boost clock. That is all intel state that the CPU needs to do. It is probably able to run it at those clocks all day long without issue. Just because it doesn't run the CPU out of specification (a.k.a overclocks the CPU) doesn't mean its rubbish.
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Con Lake Con firmed [Warning: AdoredTV]
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I bet it will sit all day long at circa 3.7 to maybe 3.9 but those figures will be well short of the scores that some (a lot) of the reviewers are showing.
And its not all that easy to find reviews of off the shelf computers always either.
I also like to see other peoples views of his videos. You may not realize how well he is regarded.
I also tend to believe his judgment rather than some ill informed poster.
It runs the CPU within to the bare minimum of the expected standards...
One of the reasons I don't particular rate Ryzen as highly as others currently is because the CPU's have so little OC potential above stock compared to Intel.
Sure you cam take a premium Intel CPU and surround it with the barest minimum quality wise of componentsit will run bit this is rather missing the point.
And medion PC's ARE rubbish... End of
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Of course people will believe what they want to believe. And, I believe this guy is a charlatan.
Just looking at the titles of some of his videos are enough ;
The i5 is Dead...Long Live the i5?
Nvidia - Getting Away With (GPU) Murder
The Great Coffee Lake Con Job
History of Nvidia GeForce, Part 2 - The Way You Were Meant To Be Played
Of course people will believe what they want to believe. And, I believe this guy is a charlatan.
Just looking at the titles of some of his videos are enough ;
The i5 is Dead...Long Live the i5?
Nvidia - Getting Away With (GPU) Murder
The Great Coffee Lake Con Job
History of Nvidia GeForce, Part 2 - The Way You Were Meant To Be Played
Sorry, I didn't quite catch that. Can you use a larger font.
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You can see though that this leaves a glaring disconnect between the shiny numbers in the tech press and the typical retail PCs that the average person has pushed at them. Sure truth in marketing has always been abused, but this TDP-spec/benchmarks gap hasn't been a thing until recently.
True, having benchmarks available of the actual products most people buy is a must as most buy laptops where the chassis makes a massive difference to actual achievable performance. The tech press has to focus more on this than the unrepresentative top 5% of performance.
You still don't get it. Parts have little to do with this. It is all about the TDP. Yes you can improve parts but unless you tell the chip to run above Intel advertised TDP it will throttle.
Didn't stop them before. I think people have incredibly short memories if they think Ryzen only had a small impact on the CPU industry.
Intel have always rated their parts quite conservatively if you run them at stock and '100% in spec'...
Adored doesn't get watched by average Joe public. He's whinning on his channel to people who would never buy this sort of stuff.
He's an AMD zealot proved time and time again with a complete lack of objectivity
So an OEM should overclock the CPU and therefore void the Intel warranty?
Whats the point in overbuilding/overspeccing a PC? Or did you forget that they need to make profit with each sale.
Pretty sure ocuk manage to sell stock rated Intel based computers that boost to the levels seen in reviews and still make a profit but then ocuk are not a completely **** provider of PC's to consumers
I don't think you know what "zealot" means. But even if he was that doesn't discredit the information brought up in this video.
'A person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their ideals'
His ideals are that AMD is the saviour to save us from the evil intel and nvidia whilst ignoring the rubbish AMD has on occasions churned out and the sometimes dodgy treatment it's consumers have faced
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Sure with Ryzen there isn't as much overclocking headroom as Intel, but as you say the target customers typically know what this is and chooses AMD/Intel accordingly. We all try to factor in expected performance in our buying decisions.
So you might agree that it's a shame if Joe public sees the shiny i7 logo and expects the i7 8700 performance that's published everywhere only to find that it's falling rather short - but it's all to spec and neither CPU nor system integrator will accept fault.
All major OEMs run things at stock.
He has also revealed even if you wanted to, 100 seconds may be the maximum period it can run above TDP (non-K chips that is).
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Folk wont like his videos because he piddles on there fav company for dodgy practices. As intel and nvidia are... well lets say a bit dirtier than clean its not hard to dig up stuff on them.
AMD are more incompetent than bent, although they have had there moments too.
AMD are more incompetent than bent, although they have had there moments too.
And yet some will boost better due to the manufacturers inbuilt boosting mechanisms be it a CPU or GPU without any manufacturer or end user 'overclocking'
What's particularly comical is the implied message in this thread that a reviewer looking at a CPU (not a complete PC) should artificially hold it back by testing it with low quality hardware because this makes the competition look better!
If you want to go buy some low end medion style pc go look at a review of that PC or try a better OEM
If you want to go buy some low end medion style pc go look at a review of that PC or try a better OEM