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Contracted developer demands obscene hours payment

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kitkat9933, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. Mynight

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    I can see his reasoning for getting a lawyer involved then however inconsiderate it is to you.

    I can't see this working out in his favour if he can't provide evidence of the hours worked. Since it was based on hours worked rather than project he could be entitled to payment even if the work is unfinished but he'd have to prove his hours. That he's charging so little for so many hours worked I'm leaning towards he's full of it and just wants to get some money.

    6 weeks no reply and potentially things changing as all software does over time. I can see his side as well.

    Have you checked out the law firm to see if it's legit?

    Have you looked into your own lawyer?
     
  2. kindai

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    No court is ever going to accept that a client has hired a subcontractor to provide incomplete/non-functioning work.
     
  3. kitkat9933

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    he said stated 'personal reasons'.

    Getting some legal advice in the morning. It's a tin pot legal firm, with the guy sending it being a qualified conveyancer and having several black marks for his advise in the past.
     
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  4. stockhausen

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    No message.
     
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  5. Jokester

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    That's not strictly true, if the client cancels mid work it's a different matter. If the contractor walks away because of client actions having incurred costs (hours) then it's not a straight forward issue. The contractor walking away for other reasons is his choice though (and potentially he could be argued to be liable).
     
  6. kitkat9933

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    Nope our own fault here, all done verbally apart from the hourly rate agreed at £8.50 an hour.

    lesson learnt and I’m happy to pay the original amount he demanded for both sides to walk away civilly. But to demand an extra £700 without warning has irked me on a matter of principle.
     
  7. Dis86

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    But as pointed out, he could simply argue it's work in progress.
     
  8. kitkat9933

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    Potentially, but it’s not just part done; it’s done. The code is so poor, it’s not functional.
     
  9. Dis86

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    I do literally every day. I hire guys to do the first part of a job before it's passed on to someone else for completion. I'll use someone less skilled and ergo cheaper to build a framework before I pass it on to a more qualified guy for completion.
     
  10. Burnsy2023

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    Do you have an email chain that details your expectations etc? This would likely evidence the implied contract between you both.
     
  11. Dis86

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    Ready for alpha testing then...
     
  12. Lokai

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    £8.50 an hour ?? :eek:
     
  13. Maccapacca

    Tea

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    £8.50 an hour :eek: what on earth were you expecting. That's the sort of money to pay someone pushing a broom.
     
  14. Mynight

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    You won't get any quality for that amount.

    Is the guy even a developer?
     
  15. Dis86

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    You horrible man. I pay my broom pusher £9.50 an hour!
     
  16. kitkat9933

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    It was the agreed rate in exchange for equity in the future of the product.
     
  17. NVP

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    That's more than we pay our band 1,2 & some band 3 nurses :eek:
     
  18. OpenToSuggestions

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    This screams that this was a cash offer that the Taxman was not to be informed about.
     
  19. kitkat9933

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    the person involved did definitely not tell the taxman I know that much.
     
  20. OpenToSuggestions

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    I hope that is a joke! I wouldn't get out of bed for that for a job that requires qualifications.