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core i5-3570k best gfx card no bottleneck?

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by scorchisio, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. scorchisio

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    Good evening fine chaps of ocuk

    My processor is quite old now over 5 yrs i was looking at a new gfx card from my nvidia 970 strix but it seems i am very limited in choice by cpu bottleneck. I have 16gb ddr3 ram is there any card I can get that will not be bottlenecked so I can play in 4k or am i too restricted by the cpu? ( recently got a 4k tv so would like more use out of it)

    Price no issue and would like to buy from ocuk obviously. I am very out of touch lately. Due a cpu upgrade too probably? My mobo is asus sabertooth z77. Whats the best step forward from a 970 or is it not worth it?

    thank you for any advice
     
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  2. agnes

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    I had that CPU for years before moving to the 8700k, I'd STRONGLY suggest spending that money on upgrading to to a 8700k or above if I'm honest. I had a 980ti with my i5 and even that was being bottle necked a little in some games and heavily in others by the CPU.

    It ran very well, great CPU. But it's age is done :(
     
  3. HangTime

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    Have you overclocked your cpu? If so, you may find that at 4k resolution it isn't much of a bottleneck unless you go for something very high end. Something like an RTX2060 I suspect would not be bottlenecked by CPU in modern games given it has only 6GB VRAM.
     
  4. tamzzy

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    Buy a 3770k and a 1070/ti on the MM?
     
  5. scorchisio

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    i believe it was overclocked by ocuk when i got it but not sure what to- so i could get a rtx2060 at a push?
     
  6. eeii

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    Yep Same here. Had that cpu for years aswell. 4 threads in modern games just get overloaded. Another problem you have is the ddr3 RAM will slow your system down aswell.
     
  7. eeii

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    What resolution are you gaming at.
     
  8. HangTime

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    Personally if you want an easy life I would say RTX2060 is a sensible option, priced keenly at £329 and avoids having to upgrade mobo, cpu and ram which can be costly (probably about £400 for a decent Ryzen setup). You have a good amount of RAM so if you can really push the overclock on the CPU the new gfx card should give a very big boost at 4k res.

    Then again at 4k you arguably want more VRAM, so perhaps consider a Vega card also but more chance of it being bottlenecked.

    I am being a bit hypocritical, as I upgraded a 3570k just over a year ago, but then I'm not playing at 4k resolution so more likely to be cpu limited.
     
  9. scorchisio

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    i was just at 1080p which is spot on but wanted to up it as got a 4k tv last week
     
  10. scorchisio

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    is this viable? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38j-sp.html
     
  11. opethdisciple

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    I had a 3570k and a 970 when I was gaming at 1200p.

    Even at 4.4Ghz it was a bottleneck for my 970.

    Although a new card will work just fine a open up performance in games that are GPU bound your minimal fps is what will really suffer.

    I would personally save a bit more and try and get a platform upgrade.
     
  12. JTrickle

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    Your 3570k will perform the same on a 60hz 4k screen as it already does for you on (guessing) your existing 1080p 60hz screen.
     
  13. greatash

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    I had a 2500k and 980 and like other even at max OC of 4.8ghz it bottlenecked at 1440p. 4 threads do really poor now especially with the minimum framerates and microstutter. Its worth just saving and getting a modern Ryzen system.

    You could buy a 3770k and drop that in but is it worth the cost? Imo not with them second hand costing the same amount as a Ryzen 2600 cpu.

    Personally I would not recommend pairing anything higher than 970/980/580/1060 levels with a 4 threaded cpu.
     
  14. willhub

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    To be fair at 4k you want a GTX2080 minimum, you'd easily be avke to play at 4k with something at a minimum GTX1070 but you'd have to knock settings down slightly and as long as you are not fussy and are happy with 4k / 30fps
     
  15. scorchisio

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    I would need a better cpu though what's my best option just for a gpu
     
  16. bigfoot4616

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    i've got a 3570k and omly 8gb ram and have just gone from a GTX970 to a vega 64. i know the cpu will be a botleneck but it does give quite a boost in performance. thats at 1440p

    i am planning on upgrading everything else in a few months though. just didn't fancy paying for everything all at once.
     
  17. billysielu

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    I'd say whole new system or don't bother.
     
  18. arc@css

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    I wouldn't think it will matter anywhere near as much if you're at 4k? Maybe get the card now, and in the meantime save up for the new CPU/mobo/ram, etc.
     
  19. DONOHUE07

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    4k really does require a 2080 at minimum, at least for the latest graphically demanding games, I would be looking at playing at 1440p on your TV.

    If I was in your position I would be looking at buying either a Vega64,1070ti,1080,2060 and also buying a 2nd hand i7 3770/k (these can had for about £100). That would happily see you put for another few years at 1440p.
     
  20. Panos

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    Have you considered Xbox One X? And yes I am serious given your budget is your best solution for 4k gaming.

    Considering the alternative to play properly at 4K you need to splash at least £420 for Radeon Vega 64 or £700 for RTX2080/ Radeon VII and an AMD 2600X with 16GB DDR4 3200. (and you need good SSD if you only have HDD)

    So it doesn't worth it.
     
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