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Core i9 7980XE 18 core & 16 & 14 core reviews

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The 7980XE is a bit of a beast, the CPU alone was pulling over 500 watts when overclocked to 4.4Ghz and rather worryingly was heating up the 24 Pin board cables :O

https://youtu.be/eBMxAWDNhCY?t=5m56s

If you're overclocking that have one of these at your side.

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jigger said:
I'm made up TBH. Pushing the power envelope to deliver the maximum performance should be encouraged. It a bit of shame it will take the price of a new car to make the most of it but at least we now have the option.
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Competition, its pushed Intel to become this drastic, not that long ago Intel was singing the tree-huggers tunes, thats now gone completely out of the window to hold off a very effective attack from AMD.
Intel are having to throw everything they have at it, climate conscientious CPU's? no not now... Dirty Coal, Ice-Bergs, Polar Bears and diced Dolphins to power these massive CPU's, whatever it takes to stay ahead of AMD.

just how it should be.
 
mmj_uk said:
You can generally run Intel chips at 4.1-4.2ghz with 1.1V so what wattage they pull at 4.4ghz 1.4V is largely irrelevent unless you're an extreme overclocker in which case you don't really care about power draw in the first place.

They're still incredibly poor value compared to AMD Threadripper though but on the AMD side you have to be concerned about the long term effect of high stock voltages.
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Voltages? you're comparing Apples to Oranges, AMD's voltages are completely normal for AMD, if AMD's "higher than Intel" volts caused higher power consumption i could understand your point, but it doesn't, its actually the Intel CPU's with the "lower volts" that have the higher power consumption.
 
Orcvader said:
So I guess this should be enough to turn off the heating at home:
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Even with a good motherboard, I'm guessing you'll need some good cooling for the VRMs as well if you plan to overclock. As well as a custom watercooling setup... Probably not a good idea to overclock these CPUs at all :p.
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That's completely insane, and don't you just love how Intel rated the TDP at half the power consumption?
 
Memory Speed should be consistent, i agree, but i don't think they are deliberately hobbling Intel, the Ryzen chip are all running 2666Mhz memory and we all know how much of a performance impact that has.

Its just an example of reviewer incompetence, not understanding or giving a #### about the nuances of the products they are reviewing, Hexus are not alone in that, For Example Anand still apparently don't know the compiler they use to benchmark code compiling is Intel's own and has code in it which deliberately hobbles AMD CPU's when detected, everyone with more than a passing interest knows this but apparently one of the longest standing hardware reviewers doesn't?

Anand just isn't what it used to be, its full of idiots now.... a lot of them are.
 
Intel figure if they allow ECC on HEDT then its less reason for people to buy mega money Xeon's. same with PCIe lanes, and Boostable NVMe Raid out of the box....

So guess what people, you get the compute threads but if you want more PCIe3 lanes or ECC memory compatibility or Boostable NVMe Raid without having to pay extra to "unlock it" you have to buy Xeon's Threadripper.
 
voidshatter said:
Whatever you do, show us a screenshot of your Task Manager CPU usage
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He's right, here is a FPS from 2014 running at 4K.

GTX 1070 - 4690K @ 4.5Ghz

Watch the CPU core loads, its high, even peaking to 100% on all 4 from time to time.

 
voidshatter said:
I'm aware that the minority of games can scale beyond more than 2 cores. Most people also don't play such games all day. How many people sustain a CPU usage beyond more than 2 cores all day?

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Whats your point with that chart? that all CPU's are within 20% of each-other?

Well at least we know why you think anything above dual core CPU's are unnecessary E-Peen.

CPU's like the G4560 are very popular because of chart's like that, people think (this obviously includes you BTW) they are getting near 7700K performance for £65 but the truth of the matter is if you don't actually put any workload on the CPU's they can all look like pretty much the same performance, if anything at all this is what this chart represents.
The reality is the G4560's performance will have frame rate fluctuations from high to low at the extreme with games that demand anything more from them than CS-GO does.

For example, when reviewing CPU gaming performance by doing anything more than just looking at a wall 8 feet infront of you the G4560 and even the 4 real core i5 are quickly and substantially find them selves out of their depth, they end up with a massive performance delta loss to the i7's and Ryzen 5' / 7's..

https://youtu.be/4RMbYe4X2LI?t=5m12s
 
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