Performance, as he says in the video yes the AMD chips are good value but this has the edge. Depends what you value most, still find it hard to believe a 2 grand CPU has poor thermal paste not solder...
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Core i9 7980XE 18 core & 16 & 14 core reviews
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Performance, as he says in the video yes the AMD chips are good value but this has the edge. Depends what you value most, still find it hard to believe a 2 grand CPU has poor thermal paste not solder...
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I don't think there's a single person on youtube that knows what they're doing. May pick up a 16 core, really not that bothered currently.
Ridiculous but true. Bottom of page 5: "AMD is shown as being faster because we're running that platform at DDR4-3200 as opposed to DDR4-2666.". Clearly that review should be completely ignored ...
So I guess this should be enough to turn off the heating at home:
Even with a good motherboard, I'm guessing you'll need some good cooling for the VRMs as well if you plan to overclock. As well as a custom watercooling setup... Probably not a good idea to overclock these CPUs at all
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Even with a good motherboard, I'm guessing you'll need some good cooling for the VRMs as well if you plan to overclock. As well as a custom watercooling setup... Probably not a good idea to overclock these CPUs at all
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So I guess this should be enough to turn off the heating at home:
Even with a good motherboard, I'm guessing you'll need some good cooling for the VRMs as well if you plan to overclock. As well as a custom watercooling setup... Probably not a good idea to overclock these CPUs at all
That's completely insane, and don't you just love how Intel rated the TDP at half the power consumption?
Just ignore all.
I like AMD, but if reviewers are providing memory bandwidth tests etc, at least do the right thing and use similar memory. I want AMD to do well, but potentially hobbling the Intel CPU isn't providing a good review.
Still an insane cost though...
Well yeah, but it shows up a fair point. I would like to see how much can be gained from pushing the memory system and what effects that has good and bad. If 2666Mhz hobbled or not is debatable, but the performance on offer is out of this world.
People should probably keep in mind that min maxing this chip in a home use scenario might not be wise.
Memory Speed should be consistent, i agree, but i don't think they are deliberately hobbling Intel, the Ryzen chip are all running 2666Mhz memory and we all know how much of a performance impact that has.
Its just an example of reviewer incompetence, not understanding or giving a #### about the nuances of the products they are reviewing, Hexus are not alone in that, For Example Anand still apparently don't know the compiler they use to benchmark code compiling is Intel's own and has code in it which deliberately hobbles AMD CPU's when detected, everyone with more than a passing interest knows this but apparently one of the longest standing hardware reviewers doesn't?
Anand just isn't what it used to be, its full of idiots now.... a lot of them are.
Its just an example of reviewer incompetence, not understanding or giving a #### about the nuances of the products they are reviewing, Hexus are not alone in that, For Example Anand still apparently don't know the compiler they use to benchmark code compiling is Intel's own and has code in it which deliberately hobbles AMD CPU's when detected, everyone with more than a passing interest knows this but apparently one of the longest standing hardware reviewers doesn't?
Anand just isn't what it used to be, its full of idiots now.... a lot of them are.
It's a £2000 chip going up against a £1000 chip and for 99% of people the comparrison probably ends at that point.
The performance on offer is pretty clear and I'm not sure we even need a bunch of graphs with other system to compare. The only other system worth comparing is maybe an EYPC rig.
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The 7980XE is a bit of a beast, the CPU alone was pulling over 500 watts when overclocked to 4.4Ghz and rather worryingly was heating up the 24 Pin board cables :O
https://youtu.be/eBMxAWDNhCY?t=5m56s
If you're overclocking that have one of these at your side.
If you're running a Vega, then you'll already have a one
If you're running a Vega, then you'll already have a one
I've got two. One from a GTX480 and the other from a GTX780TI
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Just weighing up if it's worth getting them refilled
Seems Intel are the only firm thats giving me an excuse right now. I heard you joined the merry band of tree huggers too
I briefly looked at the kitguru review, and noted that they only ran tests that stress the cpu as much as possible for gaming. There were no 'normal' games, outside of benchmarks, so it gives an incorrect impression of gaming. (I.e. they did the extreme strategy game testing benchmarks). Same with other more normal benches.
There is absolutely no doubt it is a fast chip, but they picked best case scenario. At least other reviews were more realistic.
Frankly, I love that Intel at least appear that they had their hand forced in even providing these chips. There are clearly some downsides though to this rushed system. Less PCI lanes, memory constraints (AMD can use ECC right, whilst Intel can't?).
I would love to see AMD respond with a Threadripper 24C system but I have my doubts.
Lastly.. is there ANYBODY on this board that would ACTUALLY use a system like this for anything meaningful? Beyond just having the epeen and knowing they had a fast as hell system?
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But buying this to play games.. Why?
Yeah I could pretty much condense down to a system or three with this. If Intel allowed ECC maybe two.
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An £1800 carrot hanging from the end of a stick. Damn you Intel lol.
Because it is a desktop chip, and ThreadRipper was also benched in this way as well. I want to see the comparison. (Maybe some people want a work machine, and a system they can leave stuff working hard in the background and still play a game? Prob not at the 'pro' level, but 'serious amateur' or 'freelance' work).
There are plenty of people that will but this just to show off, or feel good about themselves without actually using it. Much like a Ferrari just to show off without actually having any real driving skill or even the interest in driving it as intended.
Benchmarks are good up unto a point, but no-one plays benchmarks or does any work with them (you know, unless you make money of that stuff like 8-pack lol - this is not a dig btw).
If AMD gets slaughtered show it. If current intel chips get slaughtered, then show it. But put it in a configuration and testing situations that actually make sense. Put the chips that are tested against in reasonable configurations as well (Ryzen at 3200mhz on DRAM, Intel's where appropriate at higher speeds).
One benefit of all this is that with all the different video's and benchmarks, you can get a good overall impression, and interesting little tidbits. Like.... using Vega instead of an Nvidia product completely changed the results in gaming, or in real life situations for some tests, the 24C was barely better than the old setup, or barely ahead of TR, so you really need to be on point with your product choice if spending that amount of money.
There are plenty of people that will but this just to show off, or feel good about themselves without actually using it. Much like a Ferrari just to show off without actually having any real driving skill or even the interest in driving it as intended.
Benchmarks are good up unto a point, but no-one plays benchmarks or does any work with them (you know, unless you make money of that stuff like 8-pack lol - this is not a dig btw).
If AMD gets slaughtered show it. If current intel chips get slaughtered, then show it. But put it in a configuration and testing situations that actually make sense. Put the chips that are tested against in reasonable configurations as well (Ryzen at 3200mhz on DRAM, Intel's where appropriate at higher speeds).
One benefit of all this is that with all the different video's and benchmarks, you can get a good overall impression, and interesting little tidbits. Like.... using Vega instead of an Nvidia product completely changed the results in gaming, or in real life situations for some tests, the 24C was barely better than the old setup, or barely ahead of TR, so you really need to be on point with your product choice if spending that amount of money.
Intel figure if they allow ECC on HEDT then its less reason for people to buy mega money Xeon's. same with PCIe lanes, and Boostable NVMe Raid out of the box....
So guess what people, you get the compute threads but if you want more PCIe3 lanes or ECC memory compatibility or Boostable NVMe Raid without having to pay extra to "unlock it" you have to buyXeon's Threadripper.
So guess what people, you get the compute threads but if you want more PCIe3 lanes or ECC memory compatibility or Boostable NVMe Raid without having to pay extra to "unlock it" you have to buy