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Core i9 7980XE 18 core & 16 & 14 core reviews

humbug said:
Intel figure if they allow ECC on HEDT then its less reason for people to buy mega money Xeon's. same with PCIe lanes, and Boostable NVMe Raid out of the box....

So guess what people, you get the compute threads but if you want more PCIe3 lanes or ECC memory compatibility or Boostable NVMe Raid without having to pay extra to "unlock it" you have to buy Xeon's Threadripper.
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Yup. A lot of people will look at this system without looking deeper into these important details. Ryzen gave us all staggering value for money, and performance is the only card Intel can currently play.
 
Scougar said:
There are plenty of people that will but this just to show off, or feel good about themselves without actually using it. Much like a Ferrari just to show off without actually having any real driving skill or even the interest in driving it as intended.
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This is true for almost all CPUs beyond 2 cores. How many can actually fill up the boxes in Task Manager?
 
voidshatter said:
This is true for almost all CPUs beyond 2 cores. How many can actually fill up the boxes in Task Manager?
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Are you still playing games from 2001 or something? Windows loves more cores btw.

I play modern games, use Virtual Machines, write and run code, run databases, image and video edit, listen to music or videos at same time as other things. Pretty sure that 2 cores aren't enough for most things nowadays.

Admitably you would need a pretty special use case for 24 cores.
 
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Scougar said:
Are you still playing games from 2001 or something? Windows loves more cores btw.

I play modern games, use Virtual Machines, write and run code, run databases, image and video edit, listen to music or videos at same time as other things. Pretty sure that 2 cores aren't enough for most things nowadays.

Admitably you would need a pretty special use case for 24 cores.
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Whatever you do, show us a screenshot of your Task Manager CPU usage
 
voidshatter said:
Whatever you do, show us a screenshot of your Task Manager CPU usage
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He's right, here is a FPS from 2014 running at 4K.

GTX 1070 - 4690K @ 4.5Ghz

Watch the CPU core loads, its high, even peaking to 100% on all 4 from time to time.

 
humbug said:
He's right, here is a FPS from 2014 running at 4K.

GTX 1070 - 4690K @ 4.5Ghz

Watch the CPU core loads, its high, even peaking to 100% on all 4 from time to time.
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I'm aware that the minority of games can scale beyond more than 2 cores. Most people also don't play such games all day. How many people sustain a CPU usage beyond more than 2 cores all day?

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Imagine charging all that and not even bothering to solder the lid on.

If there was a benchmark for ******* all over the enthusiast, Intel would win with Nvidia coming a very close second.
 
voidshatter said:
This is true for almost all CPUs beyond 2 cores. How many can actually fill up the boxes in Task Manager?
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I reckon in the last week, all threads on my system were 100% utilised for at least 60% of the time. Quick calc shows that in that week, I gained at least 8hrs productivity over my 4770k system.
 
voidshatter said:
I'm aware that the minority of games can scale beyond more than 2 cores. Most people also don't play such games all day. How many people sustain a CPU usage beyond more than 2 cores all day?

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Whats your point with that chart? that all CPU's are within 20% of each-other?

Well at least we know why you think anything above dual core CPU's are unnecessary E-Peen.

CPU's like the G4560 are very popular because of chart's like that, people think (this obviously includes you BTW) they are getting near 7700K performance for £65 but the truth of the matter is if you don't actually put any workload on the CPU's they can all look like pretty much the same performance, if anything at all this is what this chart represents.
The reality is the G4560's performance will have frame rate fluctuations from high to low at the extreme with games that demand anything more from them than CS-GO does.

For example, when reviewing CPU gaming performance by doing anything more than just looking at a wall 8 feet infront of you the G4560 and even the 4 real core i5 are quickly and substantially find them selves out of their depth, they end up with a massive performance delta loss to the i7's and Ryzen 5' / 7's..

https://youtu.be/4RMbYe4X2LI?t=5m12s
 
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humbug said:
Whats your point with that chart? that all CPU's are within 20% of each-other?

Well at least we know why you think anything above dual core CPU's are unnecessary E-Peen.

CPU's like the G4560 are very popular because of chart's like that, people think (this obviously includes you BTW) they are getting near 7700K performance for £65 but the truth of the matter is if you don't actually put any workload on the CPU's they can all look like pretty much the same performance, if anything at all this is what this chart represents.
The reality is the G4560's performance will have frame rate fluctuations from high to low at the extreme with games that demand anything more from them than CS-GO does.

For example, when reviewing CPU gaming performance by doing anything more than just looking at a wall 8 feet infront of you the G4560 and even the 4 real core i5 are quickly and substantially find them selves out of their depth, they end up with a massive performance delta loss to the i7's and Ryzen 5' / 7's..

https://youtu.be/4RMbYe4X2LI?t=5m12s
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I took one look at that chart, looked at the CPU's, looked at the 7700k, looked at the pentium and then saw around 20% difference apparently. Yeah, I'll be frank, the graph is BS.
 
humbug said:
The 7980XE is a bit of a beast, the CPU alone was pulling over 500 watts when overclocked to 4.4Ghz and rather worryingly was heating up the 24 Pin board cables :O

https://youtu.be/eBMxAWDNhCY?t=5m56s

If you're overclocking that have one of these at your side.

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humbug please could you also add gamernexus review as thats also very informative review shedding light on power consumption and temps of these cpus.

The review also confirmed that these chips can indeed pull around 500W when overclocked to 4.5 - 4.6ghz while TR overclocked to 4ghz pulled around 300W.

The 7960X & 7980XE may have taken the performance crown from TR but at the expense of huge power consumptions , temps and steep price.

TR is indeed very attractive as the Performance/ Watt and Performance/$ King.
 
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