Could the death of PC gaming be its saviour?

So people are just going to use the unreal 3 engine for the next 10+ years?

If PC gaming is to be revived then engines will have to be built otherwise its pointless.

One thing i would say is i'd rather play a heavily modified unreal 3 engine game made by communities with good stories and gameplay then the overhyped corporate ***** that make me want to puke when i think of games like Deux Ex.

games are still being released with a modified quake engine over 10 years old.
 
This again. PC gaming isn't going anywhere. We're arriving at the first 'dip' in the PC vs Console gaming relevance chart.

PC gaming will rise, yes. But it won't fall anywhere near as much as doomsayers like to think. "I've had a thought" threads like this just fuel the troll's fire.

Look at WoW. Look at Starcraft. Civ. The argument is that "game developers dump PC, focus on console"; but only crap devs do this, and we only miss out on the crap games. And if you REALLY want to play the title, get it on console...
 
This again. PC gaming isn't going anywhere. We're arriving at the first 'dip' in the PC vs Console gaming relevance chart.

PC gaming will rise, yes. But it won't fall anywhere near as much as doomsayers like to think. "I've had a thought" threads like this just fuel the troll's fire.

Look at WoW. Look at Starcraft. Civ. The argument is that "game developers dump PC, focus on console"; but only crap devs do this, and we only miss out on the crap games. And if you REALLY want to play the title, get it on console...

I get where you're coming from Pete, and I'm not disputing sales etc, but when I see developers like Creative Assembly release utter balls like Empire (and I refused to play Napoleon out of principle) it really does depress me. I honestly can't get my head around how they could have got it so wrong without it being deliberate.
 
If and a big IF cause I am sceptical about its death or downfall do you think they will make consoles with mouse and keyboard.

Also it is my belief that the hardware industry wont let the PC gaming industry die, thing how much money they would lose from the death of PC gaming?
 
PC gaming isn't dying, all that's dying is big-name titles from huge game developers, and as far as I'm concerned it couldn't happen soon enough.

You say this when StarCraft II came out in July and the next World of Warcraft expansion is out next month... :p

Portal and Half-Life are going nowhere either, I'd say Valve and Blizzard are two of the biggest PC developers going. CD-Projekt are still around and kicking too thankfully.
 
In a lot of these threads people tend to say the quality of games have regressed, but I think it's more the case of rose tinted glasses looking at the past.

Born 84' when I started playing games at an early age, that is all we had, of course we loved them they were the best/newest things out but we've seen it all, years and years of rehashes and repeats, copies and clones.

That's not to say people who are now growing into this modern age of gaming are any different to us when we were young.

Anarchy Online was my first proper MMO that I played from release day, 2001 (I played EQ and UO but not enough) and I still play it today. I thought it was the best game ever it was just so complex and amazing, by todays standards not so. But I grew up with it. I also play World of Warcraft but it doesn't give me the same feeling, but I can see why if wow was your first MMO how good it can be.

I don't see it dying, there's a new younger generation of gamers who are doing exactly what we have done. If anything in the last 10 years PC gaming has grown and become more mainstream.
 
It wouldn't matter to me if PC gaming died, that's the beauty of dedicated servers, they keep games alive no matter what happens. MOHAA is still one of my most played PC games.
 
Another one? Theres one of these threads near enough everyday and its the same replies in all of them, whats wrong with you people are you just really thick?

Tell me what up and coming games are not being released on PC?

BF3 PC version is being built ground up for the PC

I'm sure nvidia, AMD/ATI and intel are crapping themselves at the thought of losing its gaming customer base

I'm sure the people spending hundreds even thousands on gaming PC's are just going to stop spending and get an Xbox and put up with the crap graphics instead

I swear with the evidence far outweighing the internet BS I can only come to the conclusion on this subject that people are thick, the only thing dying in the world of PC gaming is retail, and good riddance
 
I really can't seem me playing Hearts of Iron 3 on a console for a long time! There are some game genres just not suited for consoles. So I can't see PC gaming going off the radar fully.
 
I don't think so, because while indie studios can produce some very innovative and enjoyable games, the death of the serious commercial studios would cut out many world class and crucially highly polished games.

Even if you think 95% of commercial games are rubbish, the other 5% are likely a very high standard that indie developers struggle to reach. Apart from anything else the commercial sector will attract most of the best talent and give them the tools and resources to produce the complete package (i.e. bringing developers together with artists, level designers, sound producers, voice actors, GUI experts, QA divisions etc etc).
 
In my personal view, the PC gaming scene has grown-up along with its community. The major publishers left the PC because it was easier to develop and sell no-brainer platform/fps/driving games on consoles that cater for younger audience.

When you look at the PC gaming magazines, cross-console games have faired worse in reviews since the reviewers have also matured like cheddar. The games that consistently win the top awards or above 85% are those designed for gamers who have been around the block (including myself) for sometime - Total War series, CoD, Dawn of War, Armed Assault, Witcher, Fallout series, Warcraft/Starcraft - These are games that have succeeded on the PC but probably would fail on console.

At the moment, the rise of indie games and free-to-play mmo is giving the PC a new lease of life. When Starcraft II broke records for number of sales on release, it must have awaken the rest of the gaming publishers who have neglected PC.

As a side note, are console games developed on PC? I'm sure majority of them use the Gamebryo engine, as used by Oblivion, Civilisation 4/5, etc?
 
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