Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Psycho Sonny, Aug 16, 2018.
@antijoke Countries with higher taxes overwhelmingly have much better qualities of life.
But most, if not all of those countries are richer to start with, so making a direct comparison is misleading.
We're the fifth richest economy in the world, you're talking nonsense.
Citation needed, because it really isn't that simple.
Don't confuse correlation with causation.
Who said he was? Also that's a nice way to dismiss all evidence.
Just because it's depressing living in darker/colder latitudes, shouldn't detract from reality.
If they said we're going to increase taxation by £10pm with that money ring-fenced for the NHS I wouldn't raise any objection. I suspect most wouldn't. I just wouldn't trust the Tories that the money would go to the NHS.
Straight into Virgin Care's Lidl NHS.
Straight to your local hospital!
What evidence? It's an unsourced, unreferenced claim.
The link I provided actually graphs the correlation, and it is mild, not overwhelming, and subject to wide variance.
It simply isn't the case that increasing your tax burden improves quality of life, or that reducing it decreases it. What it shows is that there is a mild correlation between higher tax burdens, and improved quality of life. There are countries with high and low tax burdens with similar quality of life measures.
I would, because pumping it into an unreformed nhs wouldn't do anything to improve outcomes beyond trend. We know this, because it has already been done under labour.
Simply increasing the tax collection and spending more isn't the answer.
The NHS was on its knees until Labour actually gave a crap about it. And now the Tories are running it down again, like they do for all public services so they can privatise them.
Richest economy, not richest people. The UK is rich but for the 99% that it's wealth is meaningless.
Did you read the post I responded to?
And you're right, which is why we need the rich to pay their taxes and to redistribute the wealth.
We already have the bottom 5 deciles as net recipients of state funds. How much more redistribution do you want?
But way behind many of the Scandinavian, etc. countries when it comes to things like GDP per capita, etc. you can't just emulate what works for a country with 1/10th our population and high levels of income not to mention other social aspects - especially when some of these have natural resource revenue and management we can only dream of.
Scandinavian societies are also a lot more homogenous which is shown to be a key indicator of happiness.
So let's do things that grow the economy, like investing in it. Let's fix broken privatised systems like the railways, let's stop cutting police numbers.
Aren't we now sixth?
Because we once again voted against our own interests
Separate names with a comma.