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**CRAZY SAMSUNG MONITORS DEALS & GET THE VAT BACK (Eyefinity 3x 23" 120Hz 3D Monitors Bundle ONLY £4

Hehe, Gibbo, Nvidia/AMD haven't quite got it licked on smooth surround gaming yet. Though I think the way to do it best, is all cards on the same connection, same screens.

I wouldn't be surprised if the driver forces all screens to the same refresh when setup as one large screen, so individual screens, you've got 2 at 120Hz, 1 at 60hz on hdmi or something, or a basic hdmi to dvi adaptor? As soon as you try and make it one display its essentially picking the lowest common resolution which is 1080p @60hz for all screens as that is the max for one of them.

The only thing I'd check on is if the display adaptors actually support 120Hz as I've just found something fairly interesting.

Hmm, not quite sure how to contact you so I'll drop this link here http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-dongles.aspx

If you follow the first link there(it does take you to a semi competitor, stateside, but nothing anyone actually wants ;) , nor doesn't know about). The page it takes you to says the adaptor does do dual link but DOES NOT work with 120hz 3dscreens. So it can do dual link but not 120hz, so I wouldn't bank on all active dual link adaptors being able to do 120hz.

I think the "best" way for Nvidia is to go SLI, and go with 3x dvi screens and use 3 ports across the two cards, or 3 display ports across the two cards. For AMD, I think its probably best to have a card with 3 + dp's and go with DP screens, for single setups 120hz can work any which way easily.

The few people I've seen with tri screen setups(who have gone 120hz) seem to be using eyefinity edition cards with 6 dp ports.

I think in all honesty we're 2-3 gens away from Nvidia/AMD having it completely sorted and optimised and from screens being more standardly 120hz and having multiple inputs that work at 120hz.

It's not hugely important, 3d surround sounds nice and high tech in theory, in reality I can see it being a huge pain in the behind(and performance wise), though because of performance I wouldn't be surprised if the only people even thinking about surround 3d would have sli/xfire anyway. I'd still "like" 120hz on all three screens in a normal surround setup, and likewise I'd happily go for 3x matching screens and the samsungs because they are just such ridiculously good screens, though if you were buying "for the future" and hoping 3d/surround starts working more easily I'd probably go for a screen with DP @120hz.
 
will the glasses with these work with nvidia and amd?

Hi there

There is two types of 3D Mode:-

2D - 3D this always works, even at 60Hz, though better at 120Hz and converts literally everything to 3D with zero performance hit, as the monitor is doing it with its own hardware, this is not software.

Then there is frame sequential which works via Tri-DEF software, this is supported by a lot of games and is done I believe via a combination of both the software so some performance hit and the Samsung hardware, so performance hit is quite small. This makes games look truly awsome.

Then of course you can just run 120Hz without 3D in games for smoother gameplay.

Remember this is not a passive 3D monitor, it is Samsung technology, same as used in their TV's and is far beter than the passive stuff on offer. I had a play with the 23" LG we also sell and all I will say is I'd not buy one of those, thought it was very poor myself at everything. The Samsung's however I would buy myself, I really think they are superb.
 
i only play bf3 so that's the game i'd be interested in playing in 3d, but also just for watching movies.

Can anyone vouch for BF3 working with tri-def? Can you tell me what sort of performance hit your getting?
 
i only play bf3 so that's the game i'd be interested in playing in 3d, but also just for watching movies.

Can anyone vouch for BF3 working with tri-def? Can you tell me what sort of performance hit your getting?

In my experience fast paced shooters are better in 120Hz 2D. Frankly BF3 is AMAZING @ 120Hz! So smooth. You can really see the difference between 60 and 120Hz!:cool:

IMO 3D is better for other types of games. RPG's and RTS. Its EPIC for them!:eek:

FYI it is possible to get 3DVision working on recent non 3d Vision certified Samsung screens. It works on my S27A950D as an example. You do need to run some "special" software tho! ;)
 
Wouldn't having 2 monitors be a pain with the Bevel right down the middle of the screen when gaming?

I'm not sure anyone uses 2 for gaming but IMO they'd use one for gaming and the other for extended desktop or monitoring temps and such. It wouldn't work for FPS games but maybe WoW or Dirt or something would be ok.

Nice price on the adapters, I have 2 of those Startech single link ones and they feel solid and work perfectly.

As far as I can see nVidia needs to use the same ports over 2 cards for 120hz Surround but AMD only needs valid 120hz outputs but on the one card.
 
Hi there

Right for those of you who don't have enough Dual Link DVI ports to support 120Hz, I've tested this and it works:-

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The Mini DisplayPort adapter offers an active conversion, which is powered by a single USB port and is able to handle full dual-link resolutions (up to 2560x1600). Use it to mirror your display to another monitor, or extend your desktop to increase your workspace.

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Test card was a 7970 with a 1x Dual Link DVI, 1x HDMI 1.4a, 2x Mini-DP.

The main centre monitor was connected to dual link DVI, this was running at 120Hz no issue.

The other two were connected via the Mini-DP using the above Startech Adapter with the supplied Samsung Dual Link Connectors.

Result was all three monitors running at 120Hz in Eyefinity.

If you want to run three monitors in 120Hz, you will need at least one of these adapter unless of course you have a special card which has 3x Dual-Link DVI ports which only a handful of cards have.

If you on SLI then you should not need these adapter as you can connect monitors to the secondary card.

This adapter is also ideal for those with MSI 7970 Lightnings and DVI only 30" Monitors, as it also fixes the issue with those and gives you full 2560x1600 resolution. :)

So there you go guys, this is why OcUK is different to our competitors, because we actually test and try our products and then spend our time researching how to resolve potential issues. :)
 
Its an expensive way of getting the true ability out of your monitors but sadly GPU manufacturers dont supply such cables with there cards which is a shame.

Once these things were plugged in all issues with 120Hz was solved, all 3 screens even with the screen res virtually increased due to bezels still ran at the 120hz as they should. 3D Gaming or even 2D gaming looks superb and is certainly a big step forward from the set up without the cables being used on a single card.

Im certainly impressed! :)
 
Its an expensive way of getting the true ability out of your monitors but sadly GPU manufacturers dont supply such cables with there cards which is a shame.

Once these things were plugged in all issues with 120Hz was solved, all 3 screens even with the screen res virtually increased due to bezels still ran at the 120hz as they should. 3D Gaming or even 2D gaming looks superb and is certainly a big step forward from the set up without the cables being used on a single card.

Im certainly impressed! :)


Thanks. :)

So in short if you got a 7970/7950 and want 120Hz eye-infinity you need two of these adapters for 120Hz eyeinfinity.

With a card with two Dual Link DVI ports, you only need one adapter.

With SLI or a Flex/MDT type card you potentially don't need any. :)
 
Hi there

Great news!
3D also works across all three monitors in games, so you can play games in 120Hz across three monitors, or you can play in 3D across three monitors and that is pretty cool. As each monitor comes with glasses two of your buddies can watch also in 3D at the same time. :)
 
Nice result, just shame about the cost, I think it is probably worth going for the 750d in reality for tri surround setups for the native DP 120hz connection on the screen. A shame most of the screens have cheaped out and made only one connection 120hz capable, I bet that saved next to nothing for the manufacturers :(

Still can't recommend a single one of these enough, truly lovely screens, up against an older TN I honestly couldn't believe I'd been looking at such a **** screen for a couple years :p


2-3 years away will be freaking awesome, surround actually sorted to work ridiculously easily as standard, all screens and cards with DP ports and no issues, oled 2560x1600 24" screens that cost around the same as the current deal........ drools.
 
Nice result, just shame about the cost, I think it is probably worth going for the 750d in reality for tri surround setups for the native DP 120hz connection on the screen. A shame most of the screens have cheaped out and made only one connection 120hz capable, I bet that saved next to nothing for the manufacturers :(

Still can't recommend a single one of these enough, truly lovely screens, up against an older TN I honestly couldn't believe I'd been looking at such a **** screen for a couple years :p


2-3 years away will be freaking awesome, surround actually sorted to work ridiculously easily as standard, all screens and cards with DP ports and no issues, oled 2560x1600 24" screens that cost around the same as the current deal........ drools.


Yep, but at least now we know the fix and for those who need an adapter we now supply them. :)
 
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