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Ahh, GD with a twist every time.
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I'm going to disagree with Showboat, whoever is best will get the job, if my friend went for a job I told him about, I wouldn't mind.
I've worked in a college, not as general technical support, I was doing 3D design/support for marine simulation. I found red-tape and budgets were often a hindrance, much the same as my current job (Fire Service ICT support).
If its the same type of job as your current one, I'd stick with the large company you're currently with, you're more likely to be limited in what you can do (technology wise) in a college unless its a particularly large multi-site college.
If the job would be mainly 2nd line type work and you're currently doing exclusively 1st line, i'd be more tempted to move on then.
If it's anything like the IT department at our college, if you know what you are doing then you'll have no chance of getting the job.
Our wonders still haven't got everyone's logons sorted out yet but have managed to install the Japanese version of CS3 on all the web design course pcs.
Our wonders still haven't got everyone's logons sorted out yet but have managed to install the Japanese version of CS3 on all the web design course pcs.
Working in a college/school is not good, going from a Company to a school is not a choice I'd go for tbh. I worked in a school for 3 years to get experience, all i learnt is teachers are rude, students are rude, you work hard and get 0 gratitude. They are unwilling to splash the cash on training, unless its a first job in IT i'd say no to it.
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there is another thrad on the forums regarding this but Ive had a search fail. People in educational IT said its pretty much career suicide because your never exposed to industry standard software and it is always old tech.
Have a search it was a quite intresting thread with different pov's think it comes down to the college and if they are serious about funding there IT department and what experience you will gain from it.
Have a search it was a quite intresting thread with different pov's think it comes down to the college and if they are serious about funding there IT department and what experience you will gain from it.
Soldato
It may have been my thread from a couple of months ago, check the threads in my profile.
It really does depend on the College or University; see if you can get some time with a senior member of staff for a chat and a tour, find out what kit and software they use, if they use any processes (ITIL etc.) and generally get a feel for the place to see if they spend all day fire-fighting or if they're organised.
I've just left a post with a large College after five years there. I joined in my second year of working in IT and gained an immense amount of skills, experience and training. All on up-to-date MS platforms (Forefront, MIIS, SCCM, Win7 / O2K10 etc.) using good networking gear (Dell / HP switch gear and Trapeze WLAN kit) and quality server and desktop hardware (mostly Dell). One of the awesome things about working in the Education sector is the 'cheapness' of MS licensing, meaning you can get products as they are released on a campus license and play with them.
Downsides? Budgets getting in the way and stop you buying large batches of standardised kit, borderline gross-negligence incompetence in senior management (think 250K of laptops bought and stored for three years and never used, constantly ****ing taxpayer cash on 'trial' £2.5K Vaios etc.), politics in these places can be quite heavy going... It's also worth checking if they have in-house support or if it's outsourced.
I've just left a post with a large College after five years there. I joined in my second year of working in IT and gained an immense amount of skills, experience and training. All on up-to-date MS platforms (Forefront, MIIS, SCCM, Win7 / O2K10 etc.) using good networking gear (Dell / HP switch gear and Trapeze WLAN kit) and quality server and desktop hardware (mostly Dell). One of the awesome things about working in the Education sector is the 'cheapness' of MS licensing, meaning you can get products as they are released on a campus license and play with them.
Downsides? Budgets getting in the way and stop you buying large batches of standardised kit, borderline gross-negligence incompetence in senior management (think 250K of laptops bought and stored for three years and never used, constantly ****ing taxpayer cash on 'trial' £2.5K Vaios etc.), politics in these places can be quite heavy going... It's also worth checking if they have in-house support or if it's outsourced.
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Soldato
I work in one, it's not that challenging tbh, decentish money for my age (16k) but not much of a prospect, the only way I'll get anywhere is to fill other people's shoes as they leave. Some places might be more keen on getting you on training programs but at the moment they don't seem to want to do that and as such I'm slowly looking for something else, I'm kind of stuck though because the next step up require said training or qualifications.
For 1k pa (pre tax?) I wouldn't blow your friend off like that, you're gonna look like a ****** if you get the job and a fool/idiot if you don't.
For 1k pa (pre tax?) I wouldn't blow your friend off like that, you're gonna look like a ****** if you get the job and a fool/idiot if you don't.
True.. we are still on XP,RM CC3, Adobe CS3,using Leopard on macs and only last year upgraded to 2007 like 2 weeks before 2010 came out and as I say they aren't so keen on sending me on courses, though there was money in the budget for 2 people to go get hammered in london whilst 'attending' a sharepoint course.
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Couldn't agree more, I work in a college now, in the exams department. Bad decision on my part to work here but it was better pay than my previous job and the best out of the worst. Look to progress with in the company you work for now or do more training ?
My advice would be to avoid the whole public sector and education system in regards to IT, it is a non developing sector and I generally find the education sector gets the worst as in lazyest people, so you are likely to be working with some downtrodden, lazy staff.
That said I only have fond memories of working in education, but I am glad I have moved on now.
That said I only have fond memories of working in education, but I am glad I have moved on now.
I work in a school as a IT techy. Around 16k year, about 12 weeks + off a year as holidays....
The only reason why this is perfect is because of the time off you have, its almost every single holiday the students have off. I dont know anyone who has as much time off as i do. We use ALL the latest hardware and software on our machines. So its only a Job for a Starting IT Technician, dont work in a school if you have already done IT Techy stuff before. However my training is crap and ive got none...
The only reason why this is perfect is because of the time off you have, its almost every single holiday the students have off. I dont know anyone who has as much time off as i do. We use ALL the latest hardware and software on our machines. So its only a Job for a Starting IT Technician, dont work in a school if you have already done IT Techy stuff before. However my training is crap and ive got none...
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Has anyone worked as college IT technician/admin? If so what was it like? Currently doing IT for a large IT company, but fancy a change and theres a slight pay increase (1k), but unsure if its worth leaving a company i've been with for 5 years for.
Also a 'friend' told me about this job, as he was applying for it, should i feel guilty about applying for it, since he kinda told me in confidence, thinking I wouldnt be interested (he works in co-op lol).
Guilt?
May I ask what College? or whats your area?