It has no impact on you or anybody else however they earned it.
They get no advantage over you whether they cheesed or sucked off RNGesus.
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It has no impact on you or anybody else however they earned it.
They get no advantage over you whether they cheesed or sucked off RNGesus.
Is your parent's "Dial-Up" not quick enough?
Also, I think I need the Blackhammer, I want to free up space for my Badjuju 2.0 as my primary!
I am available tomorrow evening for a CE Raid if there's any going?
I am also available tonight for a VoG run - need shards and if we do Hard, I'm hoping for Mytho...
GOD DAMN IT!!1!
**** THIS CROTA FIGHT!!1!
6 hrs of wiping (with the same fireteam as well) this week for no rewards. QQ.
Got him to <10% several times, but no cigar.
Anyone who says this encounter is "easy" can go do one
I put in 4-5 hours of wipes before cheesing it. That's more than enough input if you ask me, especially when you're mostly a spectator.
It's a crap boring fight at level 31. It's a super-crap boring stupidly hard fight at 30. I'm just cheesing it to the max until they fix it from now on, and running VoG for fun and materials.
Roc strikes are dropping pretty good rewards now, got a few legendaries including the new puke green ship.
Will only have time for a couple of cheese runs this reset. Wil solo lamps on my hunter and warlock, and get on a crota cheese....then blitz VoG.
Awesome sniper for slow, large targets with large crit spots, not as versatile as Icebreaker but can you imagine rolling with the Black hammer & Gjallarhorn?
I got mine maxed out and it destroys Atheon & most Strike bosses. There's a glitch when using it against hive in the raid, where it doesn't register three crit shots but otherwise it's excellent.
I don't have GjdsoguHORN yet.
I just need a space available for play as my Ice Breaker when in Raid takes up a vital spot. Still not the end. Not having much luck with RNG with the first chest, my other 2 characters for class item and shards. At least it's shards...
Black Hammer + Gjalla is an awesome combo, I've been running strikes with it, great fun. Stuff like the tank in Cerberus Vae goes down so fast
Not so bothered about still missing out on Ice Breaker now.
What exactly is broken that requires fixing?
Also, if anyone needs assistance/sherpa on the Crota encounter - I'll be more than happy to help. Killed him numerous times now with pug/regular groups.
The key is DPS timing and the combo used on Crota. He moves to the left or right every minute after the gatekeeper spawns - so make sure you have someone watching the clock. Ideally you want a bladedancer hunter with the sword, therefore he can stand next to Crota while invisible to utilise all the shield downtime available.
Hit me up on PSN if you guys need a hand.
The key is DPS timing and the combo used on Crota. He moves to the left or right every minute after the gatekeeper spawns - so make sure you have someone watching the clock. Ideally you want a bladedancer hunter with the sword, therefore he can stand next to Crota while invisible to utilise all the shield downtime available.
Hit me up on PSN if you guys need a hand.
GOD DAMN IT!!1!
**** THIS CROTA FIGHT!!1!
6 hrs of wiping (with the same fireteam as well) this week for no rewards. QQ.
Got him to <10% several times, but no cigar.
Anyone who says this encounter is "easy" can go do one
i can complete it for you tonight and anyone else in your fire team if you like?
take less then 10min
i will be online around 7pm.Black Hammer + Gjalla is an awesome combo, I've been running strikes with it, great fun. Stuff like the tank in Cerberus Vae goes down so fast
What i use, just a shame black hammer is solar. Great for big boss fights that don't move much
why is every single rocket launcher solar? all the goods ones anyway
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i can complete it for you tonight and anyone else in your fire team if you like?
take less then 10min
What i use, just a shame black hammer is solar. Great for big boss fights that don't move much
why is every single rocket launcher solar? all the goods ones anyway
Will hit you up later dude - sick of crota tbh lol
GOD DAMN IT!!1!
**** THIS CROTA FIGHT!!1!
6 hrs of wiping (with the same fireteam as well) this week for no rewards. QQ.
Got him to <10% several times, but no cigar.
Anyone who says this encounter is "easy" can go do one
Where are you going wrong?
6 hours is a long time to be getting it wrong.
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everyone was 31.
anyone who thinks it is easy either a) got carried or b) cheesed it
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ammo is not scarce at all, shoot the infinite spawning thralls, collect free ammo, GG.
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sure it does, it completely nullifies the importance of teamwork and strategy when anyone can glitch / cheese / exploit their way through content and earn free loot. it lowers the value of every single person with raid gear equipped, as you have no idea whether they earned that gear through hard work, sweat blood & tears, or by watching a youtube video and exploiting a poorly designed game.
completely de-values the raid gear.
how can you not understand that???
i can complete it for you tonight and anyone else in your fire team if you like?
take less then 10min
What i use, just a shame black hammer is solar. Great for big boss fights that don't move much
why is every single rocket launcher solar? all the goods ones anyway
Count me in as well, we put in a lot of hardwork, so would be good to finish it.
you're missing the point however.
You're under the impression that somebody having raid gear is proof they have put hard work blood sweat and tears into earning them.
But there will be loads of people who have been carried round the raid by DestinyLFG groups not really pulling their weight and got lucky with the random drops.
Heck we had people from LFG on the vault of glass who said they'd done the raids before but never even seen the entrance. They had always done it from check points.
Owning raid gear proves nothing while this game enables checkpoint sharing and enables a strong team of 4 or 5 to carry people.
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sword bearer mob kept on hiding at the worst of times, meaning the boss moved before we could take the shield down a 2nd time (we would go for a wipe if this happened on 1st sword).
after ogres go down, very very difficult to get back in position, kill knights and thralls and exploders (at top), get swordbearer down and get shield down while boss is still in the centre. 3rd sword is defo the hardest one in the entire encounter. (also 5th sword is pretty much your last chance, and it is super hard as well).
it didn't help that most of the group was rocking 300 atk weapons, but wat can u do. i wanted to drop a bubble for weapons of light for sword holder, but group didn't want me to as they couldn't take bosses shields down reliably without me shooting it too..
I've got a 300 atk Vision of Confluence & Gjallarhorn, 331 atk Suros, Solar Sniper, Solar Machine Gun, and lvl 31.
If anyone wants to take me in their (PS4) group next week and show me just how "easy" it is, feel free. I know the mechanics of the encounter inside out after the extensive experience I got the last 2 weeks and I am geared through the teeth, willing to try any legitimate strategy (no cheeserino plz).
Sure it might be "easy" if you have an experienced sword holder and group who is geared to the max (all 331 weapons + lvl 31) but without maxed gear + decent control of taking shield down at the right time + decent sword comboing, this fight is pretty much the toughest thing I have ever attempted to do in my gaming life. :-\
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DPS isn't important on Crota, and definitely not 331 weapons. All you need for crota is one person with a 300 gjallarhorn. Two hits and he's down, simpler that way as you just have one guy calling 'firing' and the swordbearer knows exactly when to go. Really surprised you were having trouble taking his shield down....you definitely do not need 331 attack.
The boomers go down easy with a 300 VoC. A dude on ice breaker duty makes it trivially easy.
The only tricky part is the gjallarhorn guy and swordbearer communicating effectively. The rest is just basic game skills (i.e. not dying, shooting stuff). Remember if you do wipe to have everyone batter the thralls with supers and hoover up ammo and orbs.
Not that it's 'easy'....it's just that only two guys have the difficult job. Everyone else just has to stand around shooting static target zzzzzz
The boomers go down easy with a 300 VoC. A dude on ice breaker duty makes it trivially easy.
The only tricky part is the gjallarhorn guy and swordbearer communicating effectively. The rest is just basic game skills (i.e. not dying, shooting stuff). Remember if you do wipe to have everyone batter the thralls with supers and hoover up ammo and orbs.
Not that it's 'easy'....it's just that only two guys have the difficult job. Everyone else just has to stand around shooting static target zzzzzz
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Ammo was simply not dropping last night, several times I ran out of primary ammo it was that bad. Server issues, RNG or just this buggy game?
As the sword carrier I seemed to be stacked full of heavy ammo permanently whilst my team was screaming out for it!
Blade dancer is awesome for sword duties 4 x R2 smashes, had him below half after 2 rotations. Shame we really seemed to struggle getting Crotas shield down when I called for it and the group seemed to struggle getting back I'm to a rythem after Ogres.