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Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by LabR@t, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Arthur Hucksake


    Joined: Dec 14, 2010

    Posts: 2,963

    Location: Nottingham

    I don't know. In a post Merkel world, I could easily see it happening.

    Who would have predicted Trump, let alone Brexit?
  2. Nasher


    Joined: Nov 22, 2006

    Posts: 12,839

    Part of the EU's whole "closer integration" thing is to make it much harder to leave.

    It's been 40 years but the cracks are starting to appear now. Greece collapsed, Italy is close, Spain isn't doing great, France is...France, the UK is leaving and there's currently two wars going on quite close by. Germany ****** up by letting in millions of migrants (then tried to offload them on to everyone else) and that's triggered a wave of right wing politics.
  3. VincentHanna


    Joined: Jul 30, 2013

    Posts: 18,514

    Greece cooked the books to join the EU.
  4. Nasher


    Joined: Nov 22, 2006

    Posts: 12,839

    Which would have almost certainly been spotted, but they let them in anyway.
  5. SPG


    Joined: Jul 28, 2010

    Posts: 5,400

    Same goes for quite a few of the ex soviet nations, Rules for everyone, one rule for Germany and the Tax heaven of Luxembourg :)

    A blind eye was turned, Greece should have left tbh.
  6. Nasher


    Joined: Nov 22, 2006

    Posts: 12,839

    Yep, special rules for the ruler's nations.
  7. dowie


    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 40,364

    dunno if it was spotted tbh... Goldman Sachs assisted them in cooking the books by via a sneaky loan disguised as a cross currency swap with a dodgy exchange rate.
  8. The_Abyss


    Joined: May 15, 2007

    Posts: 11,544

    Location: Ipswich / Bodham

    Yes, loads of cracks appearing in the negotiations for the UK to leave...
  9. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior


    Joined: Aug 4, 2007

    Posts: 8,950

    Location: Wilds of suffolk

    Agree they should not really have been let in, but 1) they wanted in 2) the Eu wanted them in so they if reports are to be believed they turned a blind eye to the detail

    The real issue started once they joined and they suddenly had access to lots of really cheap money due to the combined EU position. They went on a splurge but with no reform of anything else.
    If they had of reformed they may not have ended up where they did.

    The EU have always allowed some leniency on budgets/spending etc
  10. 4K8KW10


    Joined: Sep 2, 2017

    Posts: 6,337

    Closer integration is good for the EU future. Forget China and move all the production to the European states. Ban these trans-oceans ship cargo transports that pollute so much and contribute for the worse climate change.
    Win-win - stronger union, stronger parties in it and healthier environment.
  11. Nasher


    Joined: Nov 22, 2006

    Posts: 12,839

    Well China has just set up a rail link all the way to London, so I think they are ahead on that one :p