Difference P5WDG2-WS Extreme & P5W64-WS Pro

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Guys whats the difference between the 2 boards in the title apart from the price, and quad PCi.
Is it pretty much the same board.
Have gone off the Asus P5N32-SLi Premium WiFi (if they ever release it) am I right in chosing one of the 2 intel 975x boards.
 
OcUK made an error - there is no such thing as an Extreme.

There are 3 boards:

P5WG2-WS
P5WG2-WS Pro
P5W64-WS Pro.

The two 'Pro' versions DO support Core 2 (conroe and allendale) and the 'non-pro' does NOT.

I'm not sure which OcUK have as the Extreme but I believe it is the NON-pro.

And yes, you are right to get one of them as they are really much better than the other boards about (seemingly). They clock better and are more workstation orientated.

About SLi support - I'm not sure...
 
JaseUK said:
Whats the difference between these two boards
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One has 4 PCI-Express lanes - P5W64
One has 2 PCI express and 2 PCI-X lanes (PCI-X is a 64-bit version of PCI which offers 533MB/s [one way - data can only travel one way at any one time] transfer rates over PCI of 133Mb/s [one way]. These slots are often seen on server boards which use SCSI RAID cards for hard drive RAID arrays. However, PCI-Express RAID cards are becoming more and more widely available. A PCI-Express x1 offers 250MB/s each way and the P5W has three 8x slots [2GB/s each way] and one 4x lane [1GB/s each way]).

One advantage of the PCI-X slots (despite being old tech) is that they are backwards compatible as PCI slots. I prefer the P5W64 myself as I only need 2 PCI slots and PCI-express cards are becoming increasing widespread. Hopefully we'll see a PCI-express sound card soon (though I doubt it).
 
P5WG2-WS Pro: 2 PCI-e slots, 2 PCI-X slots and 2 PCI slots
P5W64-WS Pro: 4 PCI-e slots, 2 PCI slots

Damn, beaten! :)
 
Better than most (if not all) 975X boards. The Abit board might have something to say about that, but it only has 1 PCI slot and is very poorly designed.
 
smids said:
Better than most (if not all) 975X boards. The Abit board might have something to say about that, but it only has 1 PCI slot and is very poorly designed.
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Will it get my conroe past 3.8ghz?

That is the question :p
 
I cranked mine up to 450 without really trying, the latest BIOS for the P5W64 allows multiplier adjustment in the BIOS as well as more memory tweaking options.

There's some kind of strange relationship though between vCore and FSB because I can't even get the board to POST at 6x410 (2460Mhz) unless I give it at least 1.4250v vCore, and I've dual Primed my CPU on my previous P5W-DH for 18 hours at 3.6Ghz with that amount of vCore, and the default vCore for my chip (E6700, 2.67Ghz) is something like 1.2v - so it definitely doesn't need 1.4250v for the clockspeed, just the FSB.

Another person on the XS forums booted their P5W64 at 450 1:1 and cranked it up to 500 using Clockgen. He was using 1.55v vCore though which is more than I want to stick through my CPU whilst its on air.

I have a feeling once I stick it under my Vapo I'll get 500FSB easily on the P5W64.
 
smids said:
How far has your P5WDH gone...
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I'm stable at 526 FSB but anythiong higher I cannot get stable.Its defo not my chip its the mobo.


I will be tempted to get this mobo if i can get 450 FSB + as my conroe is good for 4ghz 24/7 i feel


My ideal settings would be 4ghz and my HZ at running at 500mhz
 
easyrider said:
I'm stable at 526 FSB but anythiong higher I cannot get stable.Its defo not my chip its the mobo.


I will be tempted to get this mobo if i can get 450 FSB + as my conroe is good for 4ghz 24/7 i feel


My ideal settings would be 4ghz and my HZ at running at 500mhz
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Do you know how much voltage its safe to give the HZ? I know the sticker says 2.0-2.1v but apparently the Micron D9 love voltage...
 
Durzel said:
I cranked mine up to 450 without really trying, the latest BIOS for the P5W64 allows multiplier adjustment in the BIOS as well as more memory tweaking options.

There's some kind of strange relationship though between vCore and FSB because I can't even get the board to POST at 6x410 (2460Mhz) unless I give it at least 1.4250v vCore, and I've dual Primed my CPU on my previous P5W-DH for 18 hours at 3.6Ghz with that amount of vCore, and the default vCore for my chip (E6700, 2.67Ghz) is something like 1.2v - so it definitely doesn't need 1.4250v for the clockspeed, just the FSB.

Another person on the XS forums booted their P5W64 at 450 1:1 and cranked it up to 500 using Clockgen. He was using 1.55v vCore though which is more than I want to stick through my CPU whilst its on air.

I have a feeling once I stick it under my Vapo I'll get 500FSB easily on the P5W64.
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Forgot to say - in case it wasn't obvious this is with the P5W64-WS Pro, not the P5W-DH.
 
I dont think my budget will stretch for the WS-Pro mobo's am gonna settle for the P5W DH Deluxe
Which version do I have to ensure I get
 
JaseUK said:
I dont think my budget will stretch for the WS-Pro mobo's am gonna settle for the P5W DH Deluxe
Which version do I have to ensure I get
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Try and get one with a serial number starting with 68M0AG (or later - e.g. 69M0AG, etc). This is the new revision with the higher voltage for vMCH.
 
JaseUK said:
Is OcUK selling these boards with the 68M0AG version.
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No idea, and if when people have asked about CPU steppings is anything to go by I doubt you'll get anywhere asking.
 
Durzel, you seemed to be having some problems with your P5W64 on XS.

What did you do to 'fix' it and what do you think the max FSB with ax9 multi would be ?
 
Devious said:
Durzel, you seemed to be having some problems with your P5W64 on XS.

What did you do to 'fix' it and what do you think the max FSB with ax9 multi would be ?
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I couldn't Clockgen over 410 when I first started, this was with the original BIOS. Basically the same problem as I had with the P5W-DH, which wasnt a nice feeling having just spent out nearly £200 on the board :(

I've only been booting it at 410FSB so far, then Clockgen'ing it up to 450 in Windows. This is mainly because I think the board initially POSTs with the original multiplier before changing it... there's no way I can POST a E6700 on air cooling at 4.5Ghz. This is my hunch anyway.

Also - vCore seems really important to high FSBs. I can't POST the board at all at 410FSB regardless of multiplier (even 6x410 - 2460Mhz) unless I give it 1.4250v vCore, which was enough to dual Prime at 3.6Ghz on the P5W-DH. So, it definitely doesn't need that much vCore for the CPU speed (which is actually underclocked!), but it seems to need it for the FSB...

Problem I've got now is I don't want to stick too much volts through my CPU while it's on air, I have a feeling it would need 1.5v+ to boot at get more than 450. Once I get it under my Vapo LS I won't care about sticking 1.55+ through it, then we should see some interesting results. The fact it needs much higher than required vCore to POST also suggests that it's booting with the standard multiplier before changing it down to whatever you set it in the BIOS.

As for max FSB? Until I get it under my Vapo, or get a CPU with a lower multiplier (for the POST) I won't know... the person who got 500FSB (Clockgen'd) on XS had stuck 1.55v through their chip, which with overvolting on this board would've been more like 1.625v in Windows... too much for me on air.

Aiming for 10x450 bootable really, anything more will be a nice bonus.
 
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So in an extreme example, if you wanted going to go 500x6, you think it posts with the default x10 multi which would be 5Ghz ? That means you may get failures to post when really you chip would actually do the 3ghz speed. Is that correct ?


Are you running 450x8 ?

How high FSB could you clockgen with a x7 divider ?

I really dont know which board to get out of this, the P5WG2 pro and the Abit AW9D-max.
 
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