Disappointed in Seat Leon FR

Kenai · 15 Dec 2018 at 19:06

Brookert said:
Seat are the entry level vehicles in the VAG range. Road noise in my wife's Ibiza is terrible.

Maybe my Octavia is deemed more premium than I thought but I would have said Skoda were the entry level brand.

jpaul · 15 Dec 2018 at 19:52

EliotG said:
a 2013- Seat Leon FR 1.8 TSI

maybe it had had a poorly fitted replacement windscreen or seal issues .. try another

[dont't know if fox made the bentley comment because they, like lambo, are VAG ?]

[TW]Fox · 15 Dec 2018 at 20:11

jpaul said:
maybe it had had a poorly fitted replacement windscreen or seal issues .. try another

[dont't know if fox made the bentley comment because they, like lambo, are VAG ?]

My point was that his expectations seemed high - Seat as a brand is very much on a par with Renault, arguably in some areas Renault are more upmarket.

jpaul · 15 Dec 2018 at 20:14

I know, but it was ironic given the evolution of the discussion !

edit: afterthought but is bentley builds quality what it once was (like Merc or BM for that matter)

Mark1989 · 15 Dec 2018 at 21:20

I know yours will be louder due to bigger engine but mine is 1.2 tsi and the noise is fine, when on a motorway cabin noise is fine, nothing seems too loud engine wise or rattles etc.

It's 2014 none fr

ahenners · 15 Dec 2018 at 21:22

Mark1989 said:
I know yours will be louder due to bigger engine but mine is 1.2 tsi and the noise is fine, when on a motorway cabin noise is fine, nothing seems too loud engine wise or rattles etc.

It's 2014 none fr

Your 1.2 won't have wider, low profile tyres. I suspect that's a big part of the issue.

nam · 15 Dec 2018 at 21:41

noise insulation improves as you go up the range i went from a 2016 Golf R to a 2018 Audi S4 and it is a lot more insulated in the cabin

matthab · 16 Dec 2018 at 08:20

Mark1989 said:
I know yours will be louder due to bigger engine but mine is 1.2 tsi and the noise is fine, when on a motorway cabin noise is fine, nothing seems too loud engine wise or rattles etc.

It's 2014 none fr

My wife's 1.2 Leon is far quieter as its running on 16" wheels, but it's just not as fun to drive

.

I have read similar complaints on the a3 when you start going to the trims with low profile tyres.

remy87 · 16 Dec 2018 at 09:18

Got the 2.0 tdi and 17" wheels fr st, no complaints here apart from a sticky boot badge that I need to sort out eventually.

Axeboy · 16 Dec 2018 at 09:36

Its a strange one, my old 14 plate FR was noisy but my 18 plate Cupra is fine

TheVoice · 16 Dec 2018 at 11:19

remy87 said:
Got the 2.0 tdi and 17" wheels fr st, no complaints here apart from a sticky boot badge that I need to sort out eventually.

They all seem to do that, mine was absolutely fine until one day it suddenly started sticking a lot.

remy87 · 16 Dec 2018 at 16:51

TheVoice said:
They all seem to do that, mine was absolutely fine until one day it suddenly started sticking a lot.

Any ideas to sort it out?
I guess rain goes through the hinges/springs etc and siezes it, I hate it. Probably have to remove it and maybe lubricate things.

Skilid · 16 Dec 2018 at 16:58

What bugs me is Michelin, Pirelli and Continental all have foam filled tyres that significantly reduce road noise, but they’re only available in Merc and Tesla sizes.

VincentHanna · 16 Dec 2018 at 17:12

EliotG said:
What bugs me is Michelin, Pirelli and Continental all have foam filled tyres that significantly reduce road noise, but they’re only available in Merc and Tesla sizes.

Do you happen to know which tyre manufacture Merc use? The car I ordered has 20" AMG wheels and says it comes with foam filled tyres but I can't narrow down the brand.

233 · 16 Dec 2018 at 17:20

yes there is a difference between the brands in things like glass thickness and sound proofing material, it all boils down to them creating different products for different markets

want a small exec buy an a3 . want middle of the road buy a golf want cheap buy octavia . want a bit of sportiness buy a leon. all the same car with the same (more or less engines and a huge amount of commonality amongst components but a leon is not a golf is not an A3 even though they share so much across the cars.

Nasher · 16 Dec 2018 at 17:35

EliotG said:
What bugs me is Michelin, Pirelli and Continental all have foam filled tyres that significantly reduce road noise, but they’re only available in Merc and Tesla sizes.

Large tyres make a lot of noise, they probably didn't think it was worth it for smaller sizes. Over 17" is a negative when it comes to noise, handling and ride quality really. It's only really for "Bling" unless your housing huge brakes :/

Howard · 16 Dec 2018 at 17:38

My girlfriend's 2018 Leon has very good levels of noise for what it is. I would expect an FR to be marginally louder due to the lower-profile tyres.

P.s. its overall build quality is far better than any Renault I've ever been in.

Skilid · 16 Dec 2018 at 20:29

The 2018 facelift has more insulation over the 2013-

ZG002 · 17 Dec 2018 at 07:38

My 67 plate FR (18" alloys) isn't quiet but I wouldn't say it's overly intrusive either.

I am coming from a 56 plate Swift sport that would sit at 4k rpm when in 5th gear at 70mph, so my view might be a little off.

Maybe they slowly improved it over the years?

paintguy · 17 Dec 2018 at 08:57

Trappi$t said:
I would like to know from someone with the ACTUAL knowledge, would they purposely leave off a certain amount of sound deadening between the like for like model for instance say between the Golf and the Seat equivalent (leon), or would it arguably be cheaper to have all the same quality of sound deadening applied to all the range across different brands?

I can't answer that specific question but I have definitely found extra soundproofing in an A3 that isn't there in a Golf of the same age, so it's plausible.