Do companies believe they are allowed to bend the rules?

Most women don't even know they are pregnant at 8 weeks apart from a missed period or two. Is your laziness rubbing off on her or something?

Most women certainly don't tell anyone (including work) that they are pregnant at 8 weeks, there is no need.
 
Most women certainly don't tell anyone (including work) that they are pregnant at 8 weeks, there is no need.

Isn't more down to the fact that a somewhat surprising amount of pregnancies miscarry before 12 weeks?

A quick google around suggests around 15-20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage and 80% of those occur in the first 12 weeks.

It's not about a 'need' to tell people, it's just sensible not to until you pass that point really, as so many miscarry. Nothing worse than having to explain to everyone a month later that actually, you miscarried.
 
The employers seem quite reasonable as they have moved your girlfriend from a porter to a waitress and tbh with all this snow people are just using it as an excuse not to make the extra effort to get in.

Its fair enough if she can't get in, but the employer can force her to take holidays as they are losing out. Not really fair to pay her for a day off if other people have made the journey in.
 
Isn't more down to the fact that a somewhat surprising amount of pregnancies miscarry before 12 weeks?

A quick google around suggests around 15-20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage and 80% of those occur in the first 12 weeks.

It's not about a 'need' to tell people, it's just sensible not to until you pass that point really, as so many miscarry. Nothing worse than having to explain to everyone a month later that actually, you miscarried.

Indeed, most people don't say a thing until after 3 months because of the risk of miscarrying. Most of those miscarriages will simply be people's bodies realising that the "baby" is not viable for one reason or another and ditching it.

As for the OP... taxi tax taxi.
 
Tell her to quit her job? Seems like she hates it anyway.

Surely she needs to keep it so she can later claim maternity :)
Often best not to tell a company in the early stages.

Up to 1 in 3 pregnancies miscarry in first trimester, as said before it is due to the body rejecting something not viable. Often they can occur prior to the woman realising she was pregnant, (think late, but suddenly a period comes)

Anyway good luck with the ba, hope all goes well.
 
My girlfriend (who is 8 weeks pregnant) rung work (she used to be a kitchen porter, but now has been moved to waitressing due to the expected birth due to heavy lifting etc...) to tell them that she wouldn't be coming in yesterday due to the snow.

No buses are running and work is around just under 5 miles away. I told her i don't want her going in due to her health (falling over etc...) as she would be forced to work. They basically had to lump it.

She could fall over when not pregnant as well as pregnant, I don't see what the issue is really. Should we all stay at home when it's a bit icy?

Today she has done the same and they got really arsey with it all saying that she needs to do her best to come in. If there is no public transport, she can't in simple terms as she is not walking encase she slips and falls.

Taxi (as mentioned before) would be a viable alternative.

She has just informed me that they are using these days off as holiday. Surely that isn't allowed?

Yup, that's quite allowed.

They (in the past) have also had her work shifts until midnight, and expected her to be in the next day at 8am (Surely, it's 11 hours between shifts?)

Yup, it's 11 hours minimum between shifts, that's not on. If she was working until midnight, the earliest she should be expected to start is 11am.

They also give her the rota on a Friday for the week giving no prior notice whatsoever.

That's their choice.

They also dictate as to when she can have holiday and doesn't let her book the days off herself making it so that we have the plan our free time around her work and not the other way around. She won't find out that she has Saturday off (for instance) until Friday. - Surely this is wrong?

Yup, your employer can reasonably dictate when you take your holiday and how much you can take at one time.

There are other things they have done as to which i will update when i remember.

What can be done about this as it's making me really annoyed as to the way she has been treated with regards to all of this.

She can quit and find something else, of course. But that isn't really helpful...and complaining about anything won't make the job a barrel of laughs either. It's unfortunate, but that's life. And, alas, being 8 weeks pregnant won't help with finding another job.

It's just a couple of days' holiday, it's not really worth getting too wound up about it. Just make sure she's clear on employment law if she's going to be carrying on doing shift-work and make sure she gets her 11 hours of rest. Maybe it's just ignorance rather than malice...who knows...
 
They are actually being helpful by using up holiday and therefore paying her instead of forcing her to take it unpaid, at least you are not actually out of pocket

I'd prefer to take something like this as unpaid leave - I normally plan my holidays well in advance leaving only a few days free which I'd rather keep in reserve. I probably would object to my employer telling me that because I can't make it in tomorrow I'm on holiday and likely would inform them that I'm taking it as unpaid leave - fortunately I'm in a position to work from home if needed and I've not really had an issue getting into work yet (have walked before as its only 4/5 miles away).
 
(Quoting Kemik)
Depends on your contract surely?

No, it doesn't. It's statutory - your employer controls when you can take holiday. This includes accepting or refusing your requests, and/or instructing you to take specific days.
 
What can be done about this as it's making me really annoyed as to the way she has been treated with regards to all of this.

Max out the maternity leave and then don't go back? Lets face it it won't be too hard to find another kitchen porter/waitress job.
 
No, it doesn't. It's statutory - your employer controls when you can take holiday. This includes accepting or refusing your requests, and/or instructing you to take specific days.

So no one can have an employment contract that benefits the employee more than the statutory rules?
 
Yup, it's 11 hours minimum between shifts, that's not on. If she was working until midnight, the earliest she should be expected to start is 11am.

Not quite, there are exceptions and the industry she is in Retail/Restaurant/tourism is one of them. As long as she has a minimum of 90 hours rest in a weekly period she can have daily rest periods of less than 11 hours.

for example, if the daily rest period between Monday and Tuesday is 8 hours, then the rest period between Tuesday and Wednesday should compensate by being 14 hours. As long as the time is compensated later in the week then the statutory requirements are met.
 
She has just informed me that they are using these days off as holiday. Surely that isn't allowed?

Nope it isnt unless its in her contract or they have her agreement, she cant be forced to have it regarded as part of her annual leave (thus losing a day) if she reasonably cannot get to work.


They also dictate as to when she can have holiday and doesn't let her book the days off herself making it so that we have the plan our free time around her work and not the other way around. She won't find out that she has Saturday off (for instance) until Friday. - Surely this is wrong?

yes that bit in bold is wrong

Your employer can say when the employee can take their holiday but

a) they have to give proper notice (so for 1 day off 2 days notice)
b) they cant pay you money instead of you taking the holiday (without your permission)


http://www.out-law.com/page-10643

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index...y_pay.htm#can_you_choose_when_to_take_holiday
 
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