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Do you agree with Gyms charging people that don't turn up

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by terley, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. G-MAN2004

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jul 4, 2004

    Posts: 27,362

    If people are too lazy to actually use the facilities they've signed a contract for, then that's their fault.
     
  2. fez

    Capodecina

    Joined: Aug 22, 2008

    Posts: 10,131

    Location: Sidcup

    People are too lazy to exercise, people are too lazy to even cancel the membership they are not using and they are conditioned to blame someone else for both these things.
     
  3. Begbie

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 20, 2004

    Posts: 21,682

    Location: .....


    No, you don't need a gym to stay fit.

    People are the problem, they should either cancel or go use it.
     
  4. redrabbit29

    Gangster

    Joined: May 8, 2009

    Posts: 277

    I demanded a refund or compensation from my gym.

    I've been a member there now for 8 months and have not got any fitter. In fact I've gained about 7kg.

    They refused my demands saying something ridiculous like I had to actually attend and do exercise. The whole things a con if you ask me
     
  5. terley

    Hitman

    Joined: Feb 3, 2010

    Posts: 696

    An interesting point i made at my previouis Gym, why do all gyms insist on open changing rooms and showers?

    It's 2017, not 1970.. It is weird to be showering with other naked men in today's day and age.. Not a PC thing, rather a cultural change.. Why can't they just make solid cubicles? Most people i know end up having to go home after the Gym to shower to then go to work, which subsequently forces them to go in peak hours as it creates too much of a morning..
     
  6. Feek

    Don

    Joined: Oct 17, 2002

    Posts: 22,508

    Location: In the radio shack

    They don't. The two I go to have individual showers and changing areas.

    You are very misinformed about gyms.

    First you say that most of them are council run. They're not.
    Now you say that they all insist on open changing rooms and showers. They don't.
     
  7. Mynight

    Mobster

    Joined: Jun 16, 2013

    Posts: 3,365

    Why is it weird to shower with other men? It's not like you're all helping each other wash is it :D.
     
  8. terley

    Hitman

    Joined: Feb 3, 2010

    Posts: 696

    How am i misinformed?

    Man give me a break.. I've lived in 4 major cities, im pushing 30 and have been to plenty of gyms throughout my life.. you can't just assume that somebody has no idea what they are talking about because it doesn't conform to what you have experienced.. If you don't share the same experiences then whatever, it doesn't change mine..


    I ended up in a changing room once, with my old headteacher walking past, with his manhood happily swinging as he tried to talk to me when getting changed.. That **** just isn't right man. Times change :p
     
  9. Mynight

    Mobster

    Joined: Jun 16, 2013

    Posts: 3,365

    :D maintain eye contact and you'll be fine.

    Must admit I found it weird in Germany when male and females shared the sauna but got used to it pretty quickly.
     
  10. Rich1988

    Soldato

    Joined: Jan 8, 2005

    Posts: 6,196

    Location: wiltshire

    communal showers are a step too far but communal changing rooms don't bother me, doesn't take more than a few seconds to put boxers on etc
     
  11. Rroff

    Caporegime

    Joined: Oct 13, 2006

    Posts: 45,193

    Sadly I see stuff along those lines said on facebook completely seriously quite often :(
     
  12. Diddums

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 24, 2012

    Posts: 10,024

    Location: London


    If Facebook has taught me anything, it's that I really do share my oxygen with a bunch of retards.
     
  13. The_Abyss

    Soldato

    Joined: May 15, 2007

    Posts: 6,976

    Location: Ipswich

    Correct. The incentivisation was the stimulus to make them join in the first place. I'm sure most have a mailing list that will tell you how amazing you can be if you continue to go to the gym. As do the inordinate number of fitness apps they'll subsequently download.

    But if they don't turn up then it isn't a problem to solve.

    No, a service they're choosing not to use.

    Correct.

    Existing regular users of gyms would be frustrated at having to pay higher fees to employ all your new customer retention agents who would end up making calls, 90% of which would result in cancellations.
     
  14. terley

    Hitman

    Joined: Feb 3, 2010

    Posts: 696

    We are assuming that Gyms are only just viable in terms of profitability, and the prices are in any way justified. I would like to hear from somebody who runs or has knowledge on the rates & costs of running a gym and how profitable the business is before i can agree that implementing such strategies would force the burden of cost on loyal members.
     
  15. The_Abyss

    Soldato

    Joined: May 15, 2007

    Posts: 6,976

    Location: Ipswich

    Why don't you set up your own gym and buck the trend to find out?
     
  16. Jones

    Gangster

    Joined: Apr 10, 2015

    Posts: 166

    This isn't about people having different experiences and that's not why we think you don't know what you're talking about. We know you don't know what you're taking about because you said, "And most Gyms are owned by the local council" and "why do all gyms insist on open changing rooms and showers?". You were completely wrong on both of these, this is why you're misinformed.
     
  17. Vonhelmet

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jun 28, 2005

    Posts: 43,695

    Location: On the hoods

    Lots of businesses work on the basis of being oversubscribed. You provide enough supply at a given cost to meet demand 99% of the time.
     
  18. Tefal

    Capo Crimine

    Joined: Jun 30, 2007

    Posts: 62,143

    Location: Wales


    How on earth did you reach that conclusion!?
     
  19. A2Z

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 9, 2005

    Posts: 7,500

    Location: London

    Link?
     
  20. Nexus

    Capodecina

    Joined: Feb 13, 2003

    Posts: 10,585

    Location: London

    I think it's all part of the business model and once they have you, I believe they profile you based on how much you attend, or don't attend. For example....

    My brother and I both signed up to our local Fitness First which was a basic level club. When they went into administration a few years back it was closed down, they said our contracts would either terminate, or they could offer us equivalent membership at another gym. The nearest basic (blue) club was further away than I liked, so they said they could offer us membership at a much closer black club, but with a slight price increase.

    My brother goes to the gym a lot, sometimes twice a day; Fitness First were sending him lots of e-mails to say how he was within the top percentage of members at the club for attendance and usage of the gym. I on the other hand had to go and work abroad for an extended period of time so didn't go at all and really should have cancelled my membership or put it on hold or something.

    My brother eventually gets informed by Fitness First that they need to put the price of his membership in order to continue. I on the other hand don't get hit with a price increase or much in the way of e-mails and communication.

    So effectively they are targeting those who go very often, because they know they will stump up if they put the price up. On the other hand, with people who don't go that often, they almost want to make them forget they are paying for it; not to mention, if you weren't going and they suddenly wanted to put the price up, most would probably cancel.
     


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