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Do you play games that melt your system? State your GPU and temps for the whole system.
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Soldato
Could have createded a negative air setup in your case by tweaking the fans, would automatically push air out and suck more fresh cooler air in, without changing speeds
Soldato
The issue here probably isn't so much the cooler, but using a Small case, (I did scan but didnt see the case mentioned) you just wont have enough fans to draw enough air through the case for an air cooled CPU & GPU when gaming. Didn't clock which 3070 you have but an AIB will draw and dump the air into the case, and an FE whilst dumping out the back will need a decent feed of cool air. Same as the CPU cooler. Then they both fight for cool air. You can change the cooler to whatever you want but if it's not getting the air from the case intakes and heat exhausted - a different cooler wont make much difference.
Plus if your CPU is not cooling until it hits 60 degrees and you have fans on zero, the latent heat will just heat all the materials in the case so that when you start to game the case latent temp is already high. How warm do you have your household temp, is there a radiator close to the PC in the room, is the case in a dead space regarding air circulation?
You need to get more air in and out of the case. Dont have fans at zero until such a high temp as it just warms the case and everything in it. Find the idle temp of your case with fans running at a noise friendly speed and set the idle to just above that (this will change with room temp/time of year) - fans will idle until you start gaming. 60 degrees is too high when you could have tehm on low RPM removing heat build up from idle. Case fans - for small ITX you gonna need some high cf/m fans, which = high rpm = noise. 120mm fans too at only 1200rpm - Dunno what they are replacing but if you only have 2 as intake then that wont draw enough air for a 5800X on air and a 3070 in a small ITX. Not even 3 I'd imagine. 1.5 fans for each.
I'd imagine also the 5800X will be hotter than a 3600X as it has more cores on the die and thus more heat to expel from the same area.
Be interested to see how you get on. I'd have changed to a larger case though, but may have not been an option for yourself. I'd have probabaly got a desk fan pointing at the front of it to start off with to help push air in - this would have shown whether enough air is getting in or not. If it was, it wouldn't have made much difference.
Good luck
Soldato
Soldato
Seems identical prognosis.
Missed your comment - apologies. Case is probably listed too
Soldato
Missed your comment - apologies. Case is probably listed too
Haha no it was good to see similar advice (which reaffirms it) but no reply to my post either so what can ya do!
Well 5800X is installed just fine.
Just cannot use the PC until Microsoft changes my alternate email to the one I asked for.
I changed it on 2/2/2022 apparently it takes 30 days and this is not indicated when changing security information.
The processor change triggers Windows 11 to require a new pin so am locked out for now.
A heads up for anyone else. Shaaaartt Microtoss.
Using my phone...
Just cannot use the PC until Microsoft changes my alternate email to the one I asked for.
I changed it on 2/2/2022 apparently it takes 30 days and this is not indicated when changing security information.
The processor change triggers Windows 11 to require a new pin so am locked out for now.
A heads up for anyone else. Shaaaartt Microtoss.
Using my phone...
Almost forgot I took a pic of them side by side.
So I reinstalled windows 11, I happened to buy a 5800X that did not come with a stock cooler so have reused the Esports Duo and you may not believe this but the numbers don't lie...
5600x CPU-Z temp.
5800x CPU-Z temp. The fan speed hit maximum but once it dropped from 72c to 69c the fans dropped speed and settled the CPU at 70.4c
5600x CPU-Z temp.
5800x CPU-Z temp. The fan speed hit maximum but once it dropped from 72c to 69c the fans dropped speed and settled the CPU at 70.4c
Soldato
I think only 5600X comes with a cooler this gen, my 5800X certainly didn't
I was scared when I got home and picked the package up, it felt like a feather.. I was thinking, I have been done...I think only 5600X comes with a cooler this gen, my 5800X certainly didn't
Nope there is the official Ryzen 7 5800x box, then I thought... oh so no cooler?!?
Soldato
Is it using the same "relaxed fan curve"?
Uhm the CPU-Z temp test was with fans on maximum, the 5800x is using the default MSI fan curve.
Under Prime 95 the 5800x hit 87.2c maximum, the 5600x outright fails even with fans on max.
Do me and others a favor and don't forget to read properly. I linked my other thread, there is info in there too.
I am glad I have the Fuma 2 on it's way and my Noctua fans are due today.
Already the 5800x is a vastly better chip in terms of efficiency and cooling, it seems my 5600x is just perhaps not connected correctly from IHS to the die or something.
Soldato
83 is perfectly fine to run at for a cpu especially if you want to heat the room while playing
That's what AMD cards used to be for.....
Soldato
I don't think running the CPU-Z bench will be the same as 'melted via gaming'. Gaming will be the one when the GPU is dumping into the case/sucking air in competition with the CPU. You need to run the GPU & the CPU to get the gaming temps.
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I mentioned CPU-Z was representative of Crysis 3 temps, just that with the fans on max it cut them by 10c on the 5600x.
I will see if I can get Crysis 3 up and running, I need to login to XBOX app etc.
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Haven't seen this in years what a classic. Reminds me of my blower 7950.
That's what AMD cards used to be for.....
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