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Does your university cap resits at the pass mark, or give you zero?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Carzy, Jun 13, 2008.

  1. Carzy


    Joined: Nov 21, 2002

    Posts: 8,313

    Location: a

    Need a quick survey of different universities....

    Basically, I've got my degree results today, and found out that my second year resits were automatically given zero, rather than being capped at a pass mark. This seems ridiculously harsh to me, seeing as how badly it will screw up any average. It takes me from a 2:1 to a 2:2....

    From a quick browse of other university websites it seems they cap at 40% or whatever the pass mark is. I'm looking to appeal my degree classification, and so it would be good if I could also point out other universities don't use this zero rule (or maybe some do, I don't know yet...) then it might add weight to my appeal.

  2. Majago


    Joined: Feb 5, 2004

    Posts: 3,410

    Location: Stroud

    0% seems very harsh. When I went to Swansea, resits were capped at 40%.
  3. Sparky__H

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Aug 9, 2004

    Posts: 1,892

    Location: Sea of Dirac

    what do you mean by capped? lowest grade you can achieve without a fail?

    My uni its an E3 which I think is about 30% but it means you lose your honours
  4. Kemik


    Joined: Nov 7, 2005

    Posts: 4,265

    Location: Widnes

    Capped at the pass rate of 40% at University of Liverpool.
  5. A2Z


    Joined: May 9, 2005

    Posts: 7,561

    Location: London

    how can it be capped at 0%? surely that means that taking the resit is totally pointless?

    and at mine its capped at 40%
  6. Schnippzle


    Joined: Oct 9, 2006

    Posts: 3,699

    Location: here

    Capped at 40% for JMU.
  7. Carzy


    Joined: Nov 21, 2002

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    It's "only used for progression purposes" apparently. It's completely ridiculous. I messed up my second year, so I worked my arse off this year, got a high 2:1 average, but I get a 2:2 because of my resits in the second year. It means doing anything in the third year is pointless basically. My tutor basically just said "that's how the system is" and told me how someone he knew had got all 2:1s, except one exam, which he resit (and thus got zero), and he ended up with a 2:2 overall! He just sorta said "we all thought it was injust but there was nothing we could do". Complete bull****, of course there's something you can do, you can flippin' change the rules. He said they had the rule because of "legality" or some rubbish. It basically means if you mess up your second year you have zero (literally) chance of getting a 2:1 in the third year.
  8. Fishman


    Joined: Oct 19, 2002

    Posts: 994

    Location: Welwyn Garden City

    I think when I was at Nottingham Uni you had to pass the resit but were given the marks you originally failed with, never had to do one but this is what I heard.
  9. Kol


    Joined: Jan 8, 2003

    Posts: 12,188

    Location: London

    What's the point in doing a re sit then? My tutor / lecturers have never said this?? Thankfully I just found out my result a few hours ago - my tutor was kind enough to email them! Good old Dr Ray!

    As far as I was aware (pointed about by Prof Bennett) if you re-sit you're capped at 40% and no greater. You get 40%, not 0%. Unless we've been lied to, but my school is different. Is it a Uni wide thing or do different schools in the Uni have different policies?
  10. p4radox


    Joined: Oct 1, 2004

    Posts: 10,748

    Location: Prague

    Don't even have resits...:(
  11. Una

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Nov 26, 2004

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    Location: Reading / Lake District

    With ours (Newcastle uni) your resit mark is capped at 40% (pass) whatever you get.
  12. thecremeegg


    Joined: Oct 13, 2006

    Posts: 7,942

    Location: Surrey

    Swansea is capped at 40%
  13. InvaderGIR


    Joined: Jul 14, 2005

    Posts: 16,768

    Location: Bristol

    In Bournemouth and on my course we are capped at 40% on resits.

  14. Makhaira


    Joined: Nov 23, 2007

    Posts: 4,727

    Location: Lancashire, UK

    Capped at 40%. If it's already stated that your university or departmental policy is 0% though, you're going to have no grounds to appeal :s. Dig out the university regulations and see where you stand.
  15. Scougar


    Joined: Jan 30, 2007

    Posts: 11,547

    Location: PA, USA

    Cap 40% at 2 uni's that I have been doing degree at. I appealed three resists in final year so I could get UPTO the 100% mark under extenuating circumstances (which were fully legitimate). It is taken to a panel and they decide etc on whether you can do them in full again, or resist at 40%. Due to reasons I was given chance to resist at 100% level and absolutely flew threw :)

    Is VERY odd that 0% is given as that is extremely harsh! What is there reason? Because the real world doesn't allow failure? Uni isn't the real world as such!

  16. Dark88

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 11, 2007

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    Location: Essex

    might sound a bit harsh but if you fail a whole year should you really expect a 2:1?
  17. "andy"


    Joined: Jun 9, 2005

    Posts: 13,683

    capped at 40% here too
  18. Pav89

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 20, 2008

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    Location: Brussels/Bradford

    capped @ 40% @ Newcastle
  19. Coran


    Joined: Nov 27, 2006

    Posts: 212

    If he got a high 2:1 in the 3rd year then he's clearly shown he knows the stuff.

    It seems very harsh that they'd make you resit an exam just to let you through to the next year without giving you any marks. Resit marks are capped at the pass rate at Imperial too.

    Your personal tutor sounds like he doesn't care or feels you don't deserve better. You need to build up a relationship with him so that when the time comes he will be there to support and fight for you. Not really possible anymore in your situation but it's something for the younger ones to take note of.
  20. Dave


    Joined: Oct 30, 2004

    Posts: 4,873

    Location: Twickenham

    Capped at 40% here too, University of Sheffield.

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