"Don't expect sympathy" – everyone to Lagarde

[The Halk]

They all get their salaries tax free, because otherwise it'd be a one way route into the areas which have higher number of officials. Their salaries come from governments ultimately, and that's where the taxes go. They're getting a lower salary but not paying tax on it.

That's all. More Guardian rubbish. (Edit: Oh, and Stockhausen fire and forget ****posting)

 

[Derek W]

not like stockhausen to bang on about the same subject over and over again is it......someone doesn't pay taxes.......must post on overclockers.......its outrageous........its scandalous...........














oh its legal...........


EDIT

not like him to post and run either is it

 

[Sefirosu]

What if she's right? That's what matters, surely?

 

[Mr_Moose]

in for the lolstockhausen... and a quick *high 5* for Raymond

 

[One]

She's not on very big money herself considering she is in charge of all of the worlds money.

 

[StriderX]

I really don't care for Lagardes opinion either way, she has her makers, anyone with a very public face and apparently powerful job, will always be at the end of a leash, at least in my humble opinion.

My philosophy or at least a semblance of common sense anyway, is that...if someone is in the media, plastered all over it in some form, i wont care for their opinion, especially if they have a position of literal power rather than simply suggestive like normal celebrities, as no doubt they pay some lackey English lit major to right PR doublespeak for them anyway.

Its really not worth my attention or anyone of a position of intelligence, as to get sucked into political foreplay is to get into a less than enjoyable orgy of pointless discussion, thus being the victim of ones own stupidity, lest these politicians laugh and mock those who happen to be dragged into it, if one can ignore politics, it is one who laughs back at them.

 

[Strife212]

Wow. Stockhausen, he just completely owned you... I'm sure you won't care, but y'know...

kd

How has he in any way been owned?

No one is questioning the legality of it, it just makes her a hypocrite. It's very easy to say "all pay your taxes" when you don't pay a penny yourself.

 

[singularity]

You couldn't make it up

Silly bint

We're all in it together

 

[Em3bbs]

I get your point. Your point is she doesn't pay tax yet she wants Greece to pay tax.

Now, she gets like £400k tax free. What if she pays 50% tax but is now on £800k salary. Does that mean her comments now would suddenly have more weight? Or do you think she only care on the net income?

If she had an input on the treaty that made herself exempt from all taxes then I agree with you. However she didn't, she merely got a job that pays no tax half a century after the treaty was signed.

Again totally missing the point. Whether I think something is right or wrong doesn't mean anything - you have to gauge what people's reaction should be, especially when you have the likes of stockhausen around. The comments weren't necessary or did they need to be made by her, when you work in a responsible position you should take things like that into consideration. It was a dumb thing to say.

Anyway, like I said I can't be bothered arguing with people who are trying to look for something that isn't there and trying to put words into my mouth so I'm out.

 

[One]

How has he in any way been owned?

No one is questioning the legality of it, it just makes her a hypocrite. It's very easy to say "all pay your taxes" when you don't pay a penny yourself.

No it's not hypocritical because the tax she doesn't pay, nor has to, doesn't have any impact on the worlds economy.

 

[Biohazard]

No it's not hypocritical because the tax she doesn't pay, nor has to, doesn't have any impact on the worlds economy.

The flawed policy she helps implement in return for her tax free remuneration does. The world is hanging on edge because of Europe, and the problems in Europe do not stem directly from Greece. They stem from itself.

It doesn't matter about avoidance and evasion in Greece, it's beyond that now.

 

[Muffin`]

Again totally missing the point. Whether I think something is right or wrong doesn't mean anything - you have to gauge what people's reaction should be, especially when you have the likes of stockhausen around. The comments weren't necessary or did they need to be made by her, when you work in a responsible position you should take things like that into consideration. It was a dumb thing to say.

Anyway, like I said I can't be bothered arguing with people who are trying to look for something that isn't there and trying to put words into my mouth so I'm out.

You said she shouldn't comment... she's the head of the IMF, she isn't there because she looks pretty in front of the cameras, she knows a thing or two about economics so she's there to make decisions exactly like that; telling the Greeks to sort themselves out before they become a failed state.

She shouldn't be not telling the Greeks to pay taxes because she earns a lot of money, what an incredible envious position to have, we need less of that attitude ion the world.

 

[dowie]

It makes her comments seem dumb at best though.

No it doesn't.

If she had previously been shown to be a tax evader then you might have a point - this isn't the case, so you don't.

Tis also disingenuous to suggest that she pays no taxes - she pays no tax on her IMF salary - she still pays taxes....

The Greeks on the other had have more Porsche Cayennes in the country than higher rate tax payers... austerity is necessary in most EU countries at the moment (since we all managed to increase our deficits during a period of growth) but the Greeks have an extra problem in that large portions of both their middle and upper class are tax evaders.

 

[singularity]

No it's not hypocritical because the tax she doesn't pay, nor has to, doesn't have any impact on the worlds economy.

But it was her predecessors who made the rules, why can't the Greeks just make tax rules that suit them?

 

[Strife212]

Anyway, like I said I can't be bothered arguing with people who are trying to look for something that isn't there and trying to put words into my mouth so I'm out.

Probably a good thing, because all the responses to your post have done just that

 

[One]

The flawed policy she helps implement in return for her tax free remuneration does. The world is hanging on edge because of Europe, and the problems in Europe do not stem directly from Greece. They stem from itself.

It doesn't matter about avoidance and evasion in Greece, it's beyond that now.

Well it's trying to force a single currency with single inflation rate across an area that is too economically different to cope with it. Even in our economy we have significantly poorer areas than others because some areas simply can't match London. All that the Euro has done is increase this area, so rather than London being wealthy and outskirts being poorer we have Germany being wealthy and whole countries such as Greece being poorer. Why people couldn't understand how stuff would scale up is beyond me.

But the problem is now with Greece; they either do what the rest of Europe, and arguably the world, wants them to do and pay taxes and hit the hard road, or they do what would be better for them in the long run and leave the Euro and sort themselves out for a change rather than being the waterboy for team Euro.

 

[estebanrey]

But it was her predecessors who made the rules, why can't the Greeks just make tax rules that suit them?

The Greeks are evading their own rules, that is the difference people keep missing here.

 

[dowie]

But it was her predecessors who made the rules, why can't the Greeks just make tax rules that suit them?

they can... the greeks can make a rule stating they don't have to pay any taxes if they want... then they can get booted out of the euro, booted out of the EU and turn into a 3rd world nation when they realise that everything won't be paid for with magic beans.

 

[Biohazard]

Well it's trying to force a single currency with single inflation rate across an area that is too economically different to cope with it. Even in our economy we have significantly poorer areas than others because some areas simply can't match London. All that the Euro has done is increase this area, so rather than London being wealthy and outskirts being poorer we have Germany being wealthy and whole countries such as Greece being poorer. Why people couldn't understand how stuff would scale up is beyond me.

But the problem is now with Greece; they either do what the rest of Europe, and arguably the world, wants them to do and pay taxes and hit the hard road, or they do what would be better for them in the long run and leave the Euro and sort themselves out for a change rather than being the waterboy for team Euro.

It's beyond that now. Well beyond it, if the world was hinged upon the Greeks paying tax it would have happened now if it were possible in the first place.

It hasn't, and bailout after bailout has worsened their condition. Their economy contracts more severely after each bout of austerity impossed by Brussles. You can't keep metaphorically kicking someone in the face and keep expecting them to jump up sing a song and do a dance. Greece should have defaulted as simple as that but the Eurocrats couldn't accept their silly little game as described was flawed, so they setup Greece as a punchbag to distract from their grave errors and own economic flaws.

Now we've got something worse, and we don't actually know what it is yet. As long as they are like this, it's only going to worsen and calling on the Greeks to pay their tax to magically fix the world is nothing but a smoke and mirror myth akin to re-arranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship. They needed to devalue their currency, they can't, they wanted to ask their population in a democratic referendum on the Euro and their Government was toppled by Eurocrats, and now it's back to pay your tax?

Their country is hemorrhaging, and tax receipts are not going to cover what they owe and what it costs them.

 

[Biohazard]

they can... the greeks can make a rule stating they don't have to pay any taxes if they want... then they can get booted out of the euro, booted out of the EU and turn into a 3rd world nation when they realise that everything won't be paid for with magic beans.

The EU can't boot anyone out of the Euro as far as I am aware, and if we started to boot countries out willy nilly over disagreements on tax policy I don't think there would be much EU left unless this sort of rhetoric is stored up and launched singularly at Greece.