Doubling up speaker cable, improvement I've noticed

Scougar · 12 May 2021 at 17:59

Surely this would be such a simple test.

1) Setup audio frequency monitor
2) Run with old cables
3) Run with new cables.

Compare hard evidence results on the graphs. Any differences will be visible.

james.miller · 12 May 2021 at 19:35

Scougar said:
Surely this would be such a simple test.

1) Setup audio frequency monitor
2) Run with old cables
3) Run with new cables.

Compare hard evidence results on the graphs. Any differences will be visible.

Yep very. A lot what is being spoken about in this thread is quite true, but how it affects a signal, and even if it affects a signal at all in the audible range - is not being discussed. But it's very, very easy to prove.

Zefan · 12 May 2021 at 19:44

Scougar said:
Surely this would be such a simple test.

1) Setup audio frequency monitor
2) Run with old cables
3) Run with new cables.

Compare hard evidence results on the graphs. Any differences will be visible.

james.miller said:
Yep very. A lot what is being spoken about in this thread is quite true, but how it affects a signal, and even if it affects a signal at all in the audible range - is not being discussed. But it's very, very easy to prove.

Post 22 a month ago.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

james.miller · 12 May 2021 at 21:06

He asked a question and I answered it. Sorry have I done something wrong ?

Scougar · 12 May 2021 at 21:29

Zefan said:
Post 22 a month ago.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lol. I didn't see that post. /facepalm. I was mainly commenting because I see these posts throughout the audio world all the time and there is rarely any evidence to support the claims made. Given that we are literally dealing with sound from enthuthiasts who want the best sound, a lot of people would be in a position to prove or disprove claims, but for some reason.... we don't. It's all very odd tbh.

Zefan · 12 May 2021 at 22:08

Scougar said:
lol. I didn't see that post. /facepalm. I was mainly commenting because I see these posts throughout the audio world all the time and there is rarely any evidence to support the claims made. Given that we are literally dealing with sound from enthuthiasts who want the best sound, a lot of people would be in a position to prove or disprove claims, but for some reason.... we don't. It's all very odd tbh.

Oh I agree, my post wasn't meant to be saying yours was unnecessary, just highlighting the fact that it hadn't happened in a month so good luck banging that drum!

james.miller said:
He asked a question and I answered it. Sorry have I done something wrong ?

No, the only thing you're guilty of is not somehow reading my mind in the unfair way I sometimes seem to expect people to

james.miller · 13 May 2021 at 21:41

Zefan said:
No, the only thing you're guilty of is not somehow reading my mind in the unfair way I sometimes seem to expect people to

Oh, sorry lol. No, I know and I agree of course - the lack of any kind of testing or proof to date shows the OP isn't willing to do so. Even a slight different in levels, which could very well be achieved with a lower capacitance wire, would show up on a multimeter. Very easy to prove.

spoffle · 13 May 2021 at 21:48

JasonM said:
I find that really interesting. The very majority of your posts are high quality, your obviously quite intelligent person, you certainly know a lot computer stuff, i'm not trying to be funny I really mean this.

However your believe these cables sound the same is just so wrong. If you were listening to my HiFi system, I could change your view in under 10 seconds, that's how profound the difference is between these cables.

JasonM · 13 May 2021 at 22:44

spoffle said:

As I already said, a lot a noise posted in this thread.

spoffle · 13 May 2021 at 22:49

JasonM said:
As I already said, a lot a noise posted in this thread.

Yeah I know. The signal to noise ratio on all your comments is pretty bad.

JasonM · 13 May 2021 at 22:56

spoffle said:
Yeah I know. The signal to noise ratio on all your comments is pretty bad.

Whats your problem?

If you have nothing constructive to add then why post.

spoffle · 13 May 2021 at 22:59

JasonM said:
Whats your problem?

Your thread and comments are quite entertaining. Your persistence is impressive as well.

If you have nothing constructive to add then why post.

It would be nice if you followed this thought process too.

JasonM · 13 May 2021 at 23:04

spoffle said:
Your thread and comments are quite entertaining. Your persistence is impressive as well.

It would be nice if you followed this thought process too.

You come into this thread trying to criticise what I've done.

I'm guessing however, that you have no good HiFi or music equipment in your house, it's certainly not setup in anyway.

spoffle · 13 May 2021 at 23:05

JasonM said:
You come into this thread trying to criticise what I've done.

I'm guessing however, that you have no good HiFi or music equipment in your house, it's certainly not setup in anyway.

I can guarantee you that my living room set up is significantly better than your Edifier speakers.

JasonM · 13 May 2021 at 23:06

spoffle said:
I can guarantee you that my living room set up is significantly better than your Edifier speakers.

I'm not running Edifier speakers, and you have no idea what else I have in my house.

spoffle · 13 May 2021 at 23:07

JasonM said:
I'm not running Edifier speakers, and you have no idea what else I have in my house.

It's funny, because you have no idea what I've got in my house. But that didn't stop you before.

Hypocrisy much?

JasonM · 13 May 2021 at 23:12

spoffle said:
It's funny, because you have no idea what I've got in my house. But that didn't stop you before.

Hypocrisy much?

It's simple, anyone who cared about audio would not criticise someone posting about better speaker cable, or what I think about those Van Damm interconnects - google reviews on those before you convince yourself they have no benefit.

spoffle · 13 May 2021 at 23:19

JasonM said:
It's simple, anyone who cared about audio would not criticise someone posting about better speaker cable, or what I think about those Van Damm interconnects - google reviews on those before you convince yourself they have no benefit.

Speaker cable magic is a meme in the audio world. You can't impose a false dichotomy on me by suggesting I cannot care about audio because I don't believe in magic speaker cables.

All my speakers are connected by pure copper of a sufficient gauge. Because that's all that matters when it comes to speaker cable.

bloodiedathame · 13 May 2021 at 23:31

http://roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

I credit the success of the speaker wire industry to their expert sales and marketing ability. However, it is my experience that ordinary copper wire, as long as it's heavy enough, is just as good as name brands.

JasonM · 13 May 2021 at 23:33

spoffle said:
Speaker cable magic is a meme in the audio world. You can't impose a false dichotomy on me by suggesting I cannot care about audio because I don't believe in magic speaker cables.

Magic speaker cable? :cry:

This OFC copper cable came from Maplins!

spoffle said:
All my speakers are connected by pure copper of a sufficient gauge. Because that's all that matters when it comes to speaker cable.

I've changed the effective gauge from 17 AWG to 14 AWG, you do understand this is the same as a single 14 AWG run? If you understand that thicker OFC copper cable is better, then how could you possibly disagree with what I've done.

My main HiFi uses 4mm DCSK speaker cable BTW.