Dragon's Dogma Up for Pre-Order on Steam

[Seanspeed]

Finally available for purchase.

£23.99

http://store.steampowered.com/app/367500/

1080p/60fps PC trailer(watch fullscreen):

"Pffft, will probably be terrible port, why should I pre-order?"

Well pre-ordering isn't going to get you anything grand, no. You get a 300+ page digital art book plus the 53 track soundtrack in either MP3 of FLAC formats. That will probably appeal to quite a few people, though.

As for people worried about how it'll turn out, let's just say this is on-track to be a very high quality port. We've gotten lots of gameplay video of it running at a completely butter smooth 60fps. The game also gets rid of the black bars of the console version and supports up to 4k resolutions. It's looking like the game is very undemanding and will probably be able to run at higher resolutions and 60fps quite easily. It also supports framerates above 60fps, too!

I think this one deserves some hype and I'll be pre-ordering simply because I'm excited for it and want to show Capcom and the developer the support they deserve for getting this done and not just making it some low effort port.

Anyways, here's a great comparison vid of the PC version vs the PS3 version. On a personal note, I tried playing the PS3 version a while back and got about an hour in before having to quit due to the performance issues. They were really *that* bad and for a game so reliant on action combat, it was just absolutely unplayable. 60fps+ will be a godsend.

 

[Seanspeed]

Is this much the same in terms of mechanics / game play compared to the Dark Souls series?

Not quite. Combat in Souls games is slower paced and more methodical. This gets much closer to action-game style combat, but also with awesome ranged weaponry and totally insane magic casting.

It does share the intention of creating a really satisfying and fun combat system in an RPG in common with Souls games, though. They just do it a bit differently.

 

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Sort of yes, it's class based and so ability based for attacks and your class can advance and gain new abilities.

Sorry to be nitpicky, but Souls games aren't class-based at all. One of the main features of them is that you basically create whatever type of character you want.

And advancing and gaining new abilities - for one, if you're doing a more melee-style play in a Souls game, you actually dont gain many new abilities at all. Different weapons might have different movesets, but it's really only magic users who get new 'abilities'.

This is actually one of the distinctions between the games from what I can tell.

You move about the world like it's a Souls game

I dont really know what that means. It's a 3rd person game and you move around. That's about where the similarity ends, though.

I'm sorry to be contrarian, but I want to provide an accurate picture to the person asking so they understand what they're getting into. Your comments makes it sound much more like Souls than it is.

 

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mmm, Souls does start class based, you choose a class and it manipulates your stats towards that class. But yes I know what you mean and I worded it poorly. What I was thinking as I was typing was "Sort of.. but it's class based"



I think you have got confused, I was talking about Dragon's Dogma by this point where you do in fact gain new abilities depending on your class and level in that class and can advance your class



So it's exactly as I described then, and since his reference point is Dark Souls he shouldn't have any confusion.



The only link I gave to, a Souls game is the way you move about the game. It's not an FPS, it's not a point and click, it's not menu driven, it's like a Souls game.

Fair enough man, wasn't trying to pick an argument necessarily! Just didn't want to give the wrong impression.

 

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Great combat system and online functionality in fact great game. But my days sitting in front of a monitor with RPGs are gone, so I hope it comes out on the xbox one.

That's a shame man, cuz I wouldn't be surprised if this ran perfectly at 4k with a 980Ti.

 

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There's a great FAQ up on Steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/0/487877107137271918/

Some noteworthy bits:

- You can turn pawn chatter off, which was apparently an annoyance on the console versions.

- 4k is not the ceiling resolution. You can go higher if you can run it.

- Bad news for recent 165hz monitor owners! Game is capped at 150fps. Sorry, you'll just have to make do with 144fps.

- Game should work with all major controllers out of the box(X360, XB1, DS4, Steam, etc).

- They will not stop modders, but they aren't going out of their way to support them, either.

- Game still only has one save slot.

 

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Really? I'd never heard this complaint when it was released on PS3. There was a big ps3 thread on it. Rather bizarre.... most folk had no problems with it or if there was low fps at times it certainly didnt impact the game enough to make it unplayable....

In comparison i remember some areas of dark souls being an utter mare to play on the ps3 because of seriously low fps but never enough that people quit the game


Good game on ps3 but looking at that video i'm not impressed at all with the graphics to be honest. Graphics for ps3 version were great just expect a bit more for PC version. Struggling to see real improvements tbh

What now?

Dude, the game often ran *consistently* in the low 20's on PS3. How on earth would nobody have a problem with that? And it's an action-heavy combat system, which compounds it.

It was totally unplayable for me. Some people obviously just had very low standards. I used to, but not anymore. Not after getting used to playing most games at 60fps. Even 30fps feels disappointing to me. A shaky low 20fps framerate is just abysmal. And I'm pretty sure if any game released in that state today it would be panned universally.

The only seriously problematic area with Dark Souls was Blighttown. The rest of the game ran at a mostly accepable 30fps with dips.

Dragon's Dogma was also never a looker. It was adequate, but far from being one of the more impressive games of its day. There are numerous improvements shown if you watch the video. Textures, draw distances and even some shaders for things like the water are improved. It's not a complete overhaul, but combined with higher resolutions and 60fps+ framerates, it's a HUGE difference. Still not a graphical showcase, but a big improvement over consoles and far more playable.

 

[Seanspeed]

Well it ran fine on my ps3 Graphics and environment lovely and colourful. Me and plenty of other ppl had a blast playing it.

Yeah the 360 version had bad framers problems but the ps3 version was mainly fine.

PS3 had much lower framerates than on 360. 360 suffered from heavy screen tearing, though.

So both were awful, it was just a matter of picking your poison. I promise you it did not 'run fine' on your PS3.

It was a little choppy on ps3 to be fair.

It literally runs in the low 20's for most of the time. Way more than a 'little choppy' for me!

I'm gonna see if I cant get it running at 4k/60fps with my GTX970. If not, I'll be happy with something like 1600-1800p.

Sad to see that people are pirating the game already.

Capcom deserve better for this.

 

[Seanspeed]

No purchase for me then

Why would you buy a monitor that you know wont be supported by many games and then refuse to buy all the games that dont fully support it?

I feel like if you buy something like a 120hz or 21:9 monitor, you should be prepared to accept that you'll still have to play games at 60hz or 16:9 at times.

I mean, do you what you need to do, but I cant imagine missing out on a bunch of great games simply because they dont support my niche hardware device fully.

Anyways, looks like one advantage of the pirated copies going around is that there will be some ENB's, SweetFX profiles, an addition of HBAO+ and a way to mod in the original intro song all ready for launch tomorrow.

PC gaming is awesome.

 

[Seanspeed]

I guess me and the other ps3 players (in the dd megathread) must have blanked out that whole traumatic experience and enjoyed the game regardless but thanks for finding my sold ps3, booting up Dragons Dogma and confirming that yeah ohh wow yeah the framerates are criminal here omg i will have to run to the forums and let Surfer know......

I didn't say you didn't enjoy the game. You just have(or had) very low standards for performance, obviously. I dont.

I took issue with it because a couple years ago, I asked on another forum if the PS3 version was any decent after remembering hearing something about performance problems but was basically told, "Yea, it runs fine" like you said. So I buy the game, get it, all excited to play, and then find the game runs in the low 20's. If it was playable for you, ok. For me, it wasn't. I got about an hour in and had to stop. If it was an older FF-style game or something I might have perservered, but it was heavy on action, so I couldn't do it.

The game did not run just fine, by objective measures.

 

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Well i have to reiterate yet again that at the time i played DD the framerate was fine. I'm sure i would have mentioned the so-called abysmal fps in the ps3 thread those years ago.

Your PS3 wasn't special. If you consider 20-25fps with dips into the teens 'fine', that's cool(there's nothing wrong with that), but realize that it was just fine for you. Just realize you have fairly low standards, quite clearly.

Its not even in the same league as the very well known fps issues that plagued Dark Souls on ps3 (blighttown)

Aside from Blighttown, Dark Souls ran far better on both consoles. Maybe not 'perfect', but it was 30fps or close to it most of the time. Dragon's Dogma ran poorly from start to finish.

 

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6pm :O why not mid night tonight?

Because they're going for midday US-time. Happens with a lot of games.

Port report, not watched it yet:

Not entirely sure what PC the guy has, you'd think that would be important to note, but it looks fairly beastly.

Some notes:

- SLI isn't working

- Game runs very well, though framerates do jump around quite a bit if you dont have things capped/v-sync'd. Looked like he was more or less running 100-110fps but things could sometimes drop down to the 60's.

- Keyboard/mouse controls are actually usable.

 

[Seanspeed]

oh lol you are a funny guy. Clearly you find it hard to accept that for some people Dragons Dogma played well on their console. I certainly did not get dips into the teens in DD. I think considering that it was me that played it and not you that i would know

I dont accept it because it's not true. Your PS3 wasn't super powered compared to mine. These are highly regulated devices. Very different from individually-configured PC's.

On the other hand i dreaded going to Blighttown in Dark Souls because of the extremely low fps.

Dragons Dogma was smooth as silk in comparison

I dread going into Blighttown on my 360 as well. And Dragon's Dogma may have run better overall by comparison to that one area, but saying it ran 'smooth as silk' is a lie of epic proportions.

Maybe you didn't notice it. Maybe your standards are just very low and it didn't bother you. I was that way once. Far Cry 3 on 360 was once 'acceptable' to me despite now seeing it ran like total garbage. But I promise you anybody with higher standards can see how abysmal Dragon's Dogma runs on PS3. It is completely awful, no exaggeration.

 

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tbh i dont think youve even played DD on ps3...you're just trolling.

Please stop embarrassing yourself. I definitely did play it. I'll take a picture of my copy of it if you absolutely need assurance.

Watch this whole thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Ky9NiPTjE

And now tell me that the framerate on PS3 was 'just fine'. I dont need you to sob at my feet and apologize. Just stop going around saying it was fine when it was not.

Either sean has never owned a ps3 game or console and has only played pc games ergo the lower fps killed the game for him or hes being a complete fps snob lol But i couldnt give a monkeys about that anyway...it may have been unacceptable for him...i accept that but he has incredible difficulty accepting other people had a better experience.

Its stupid and petty and i dont know anyone else who would continually insist on telling someone else what that person's experience was like. When really they dont have a clue.

I've not once said that you couldn't have enjoyed yourself or felt the framerate wasn't a problem *for you*. Please dont try and misrepresent my comments.

I just dont think there's any room in this world for saying that a game that spends much of its time running in the low 20's 'runs just fine'. I dont think I'm out of line in arguing this point. You clearly didn't realize it because you have/had low standards. Dont think you are 'the norm' here, though. Especially on a PC-gaming specific forum where people generally have higher standards.

When you take your head out of your arse you might see that other people have valid opinions and points of view as well. The world doesnt revolve around you. Maybe just step away from the keyboard because its just gob****e coming out of your mouth

You've got issues man. I feel bad for you.

Actually getting insulting and mean over this. Especially when you're incorrect.

 

[Seanspeed]

TW3 is beautiful in 4k/60. I don't expect that but for £12 for a code would you say this has the combination of great graphics and addictive storyline to keep me interested?

This game is not a looker. It doesn't have trash graphics, but it's fairly mediocre 360/PS3-era graphics(at higher resolutions/framerates if you've got even a modest PC).

Storyline/characters also doesn't seem like its strong point.

This game relies a whole lot on a good old classic sense of adventure and some really fun combat. These are the main reasons to play it.

 

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Hmmmm finished first main quest in the capital and then some guy told me to meet some chump near the castle to help out, then it said i cant finish a quest i had relating to someone from my home town? Not sure why, no warning lol

Yea, there's missable/failable quests.

Dont fret over them.

 

[Seanspeed]

I'd suggest staying with a vocation till you max it out -- the augments carry across vocations

Some augments carry across. Most do not from what I've seen so far.

The problem with not switching vocations til later on is that you're going to be going against high level creatures and areas but with very rudimentary skills and less augments. You'll still be able to handle it, and you'll level up your vocation even faster, but it's ultimately a pros/cons kind of thing, with no *best* way to do it.

Best advice I think is to just change whenever you think you want to. It's nearly impossible that you're going to screw yourself over, so if you're in the mood to try a new class, go for it.

 

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I'm playing Fighter because I WANT too. It isn't my fault the boss fights are all so biast toward ranged characters.

Seems like the role of a fighter is more of a team player sort of thing when it comes to bosses. You draw the aggro of the enemy and occasionally climb on the mofo's and try and inflict damage to critical areas.

I haven't tried it myself, though. Just what I notice with my pawns and everything. I've found having at least one in my party is invaluable, though. Especially for normal mobs, which can kill you quickly as an archer or spellcaster if they start to gang up on you.