Driving in France - some thoughts and experiences

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Just got back from a lovely Easter break in Villelongue de la Salanque, a quiet little village near Perpignan in southern France. Dad and I drove down in Dad's '05 Fiat Panda, with Mum and my sister flying out to meet us a couple of days later. A quick summary of what seem to be the rules of the road in France.

1) Don't give way to anything.
2) Especially if signs say you must.
3) Speed limits are targets, feel free to comfortably exceed them.
4) Cyclists are allowed to ride anywhere they please, ignore any signals that they want, and annoy whoever they want to.
5) You must wait for around 5-6 seconds after a traffic light has gone green before considering the possibility of thinking about formulating a plan to come up with a strategy regarding how you intend to move off. Admittedly, the procedure is actually the same each time....but you still need to plan it out on each occasion.

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On a somewhat lighter note, I enjoyed my first driving experience on the continent. We took the Dover-Boulogne crossing on the cat-type ferry, drove to Chartres and stayed overnight, then drove to Clermont-Ferrand and from there down the country, over the Massif Central and down towards Perpignan. The Panda is a nice little car to go bombing around in, especially with the 1.3 MultiJet TD engine and the big sunroof. Oh, and the drive down is made totally worth it by the Millau Viaduct.....it truly is a beautiful piece of engineering, with the added bonus that you save about 4-6 hours of narrow winding roads and traffic jams that you used to encounter by going anywhere near Millau :)
 
JRS said:
it truly is a beautiful piece of engineering, with the added bonus that you save about 4-6 hours of narrow winding roads and traffic jams that you used to encounter by going anywhere near Millau :)

4-6 hours of winding country roads you say....

I'm so going :D
 
Firestar_3x said:
4-6 hours of winding country roads you say....

I'm so going :D

I remember around 8 years ago being sat in the back of the Volvo my Dad had at the time as we crawled along those roads in the middle of the Mother Of All Traffic Jams.....not pleasant. At least with the bridge there now you get to see something pretty and cut out all that stupid nonsense of driving down one side of the valley and back up the other.

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Luke15 said:
You would have had a better experience driving in Germany

Germany bores me to death. The weather is generally crap, the food is pretty uninspiring, and I can't honestly see why people would want to go there. About the only thing I can think of is the fact that there are a few autobahns where you can cruise at Ludicrous Speed, but frankly that doesn't make the basis for a nice Easter vacation :)
 
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JRS said:
5) You must wait for around 5-6 seconds after a traffic light has gone green before considering the possibility of thinking about formulating a plan to come up with a strategy regarding how you intend to move off. Admittedly, the procedure is actually the same each time....but you still need to plan it out on each occasion.
Always feels this way because their lights go straight from red to green, so you don't get the opportunity to prepare on amber like you do here where everyone moves off on the green (or before it!).
 
Did something similar about month ago went across on the eurotunnel and whooped down to Clermont-Ferrand on the bike for the first day. French drivers seemed pretty ok to me, scooter riders on the skirts of Paris had a bit of a death wish though.

Journey got cut short though ended up playing shirades with the French police after some gets alleviated me of my bike. Didn't make it to the viaduct :/

Diff experience with speed limits to you though had my second meeting with the police after getting done for speeding in my grosly underpowered hired Clio. Saw quite a few driver pulled on the way back.
 
JRS said:
Just got back from a lovely Easter break in Villelongue de la Salanque, a quiet little village near Perpignan in southern France. Dad and I drove down in Dad's '05 Fiat Panda, with Mum and my sister flying out to meet us a couple of days later. A quick summary of what seem to be the rules of the road in France.

1) Don't give way to anything.
2) Especially if signs say you must.
3) Speed limits are targets, feel free to comfortably exceed them.
4) Cyclists are allowed to ride anywhere they please, ignore any signals that they want, and annoy whoever they want to.
5) You must wait for around 5-6 seconds after a traffic light has gone green before considering the possibility of thinking about formulating a plan to come up with a strategy regarding how you intend to move off. Admittedly, the procedure is actually the same each time....but you still need to plan it out on each occasion.

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On a somewhat lighter note, I enjoyed my first driving experience on the continent. We took the Dover-Boulogne crossing on the cat-type ferry, drove to Chartres and stayed overnight, then drove to Clermont-Ferrand and from there down the country, over the Massif Central and down towards Perpignan. The Panda is a nice little car to go bombing around in, especially with the 1.3 MultiJet TD engine and the big sunroof. Oh, and the drive down is made totally worth it by the Millau Viaduct.....it truly is a beautiful piece of engineering, with the added bonus that you save about 4-6 hours of narrow winding roads and traffic jams that you used to encounter by going anywhere near Millau :)

have you ever been outside of europe?
 
JRS said:
1) Don't give way to anything.
2) Especially if signs say you must.
3) Speed limits are targets, feel free to comfortably exceed them.


LOL, i can relate to all 3 of these. My friends and me drive up through france to get to the Netherlands.

100 mph for an hour wasnt out of line there :D

Glad you had a good safe time :)

mokey said:
have you ever been outside of europe?

Did you read his post?

Jon
 
Vertigo1 said:
Always feels this way because their lights go straight from red to green, so you don't get the opportunity to prepare on amber like you do here where everyone moves off on the green (or before it!).

How many lights have you seen that do that? :confused:

The light sequence is:

10:Green
20:Amber
30:Red
40:Green and amber
50:green
60:goto 10
 
I live in Bize-minervois which is only about 3/4 of an hour away from Villalongue, a Dutch friend owns a few rental properties in and around there, wouldnt be suprised if you were in one of his tbh.
Your right about the French drivers though, utter n00bs!


OCUK deliver here aswell :D
 
Nazbit said:
:D Is it as bad as portugal? I will NEVER go back there in a car, ever again.
The Maltese don't have left or right, they drive in the shade. I rented a car at the airport and five minutes out I didn't think I'd make it to the hotel :(
 
Vertigo1 said:
The Maltese don't have left or right, they drive in the shade. I rented a car at the airport and five minutes out I didn't think I'd make it to the hotel :(

I will never forget being overtaken by a coach, which in turn was being overtaken by a car - on the OTHER hard sholder!!!

And the road quality. - LOL. BUMP BUMP BUMP !!!!

:D

Jon
 
jamoor said:
have you ever been outside of europe?

Been to Seattle, Vancouver, Vancouver Island, Toronto. Good enough for you? :)

And inside of Europe, just to give you a complete picture here, I've been to Spain, Germany, Italy and Holland in addition to France.

What was your point by the way?
 
JRS said:
Been to Seattle, Vancouver, Vancouver Island, Toronto. Good enough for you? :)

And inside of Europe, just to give you a complete picture here, I've been to Spain, Germany, Italy and Holland in addition to France.

What was your point by the way?

ah right, no wonder,
anywhere in asia or africa, its 10 times worse than what you have experienced, you didnt have to deal with camels, donkeys, rickshaws etc etc.
 
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